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Just wondering about Petitbon transfer. Did colors O&B have anything to do with it? As in Lovie, former O&B Bears coach; Grampa Petitbon , although Tulane, wore O&B as a Bear. Man, was he good! Whatever.
Will Richie enroll in a graduate school program? Do you have to as a grad transfer?
And now I hear Illinois offered Luke Petitbon. Great to have that last name at Illinois.
One more question: if it's true Miami players voted not to welcome Thomas back, does that help his waiver chances?
Will Richie enroll in a graduate school program? Do you have to as a grad transfer?
And now I hear Illinois offered Luke Petitbon. Great to have that last name at Illinois.
One more question: if it's true Miami players voted not to welcome Thomas back, does that help his waiver chances?
Honestly, I’m a little worried that the perceived effort by JT to try and get back in with Miami will make it apparent that the hardship at school (Richt and staff) and the hardship at home (being away from daughter) are no longer hardships.
Thus, eliminating the chance of a waiver. Hopefully the NCAA doesnt see it like that.
Did that actually happen? I assumed that was the only way he’d leave. I also wonder how that affects the waiver, since he wasn’t allowed to play at his previous school.
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I hate to speculate, but that's all we can do because we're never gonna learn the truth. And why should we, really? These really are private personnel matters played out in public.
Great post.
I hate to speculate, but that's all we can do because we're never gonna learn the truth. And why should we, really? These really are private personnel matters played out in public.
His brother has had an offer for a little bit now...also the Miami players want JT back.
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Don't know. At least one account claimed Hurricanes vetoed his returning. Forgot which one; just google Jeff Thomas to read Florida stuff about his sticking with Illini. Isn't there something called "fake news" going around?
Whatever. Welcome Jeff Thomas, but I won't believe a thing until I see him in Illini uni during a game.
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a waiver can be granted if the following conditions are met :
a. The transfer is due to documented mitigating circumstances that are outside the student-athlete’s control and directly impact the health, safety and well-being of the student-athlete;
b. At the time of transfer to the certifying institution, the student-athlete would have been athletically and academically eligible and in good standing on the team had he or she remained at the previous institution;
c. The certifying institution must certify that the student-athlete meets percentage-of-degree requirements; and
d. The previous institution’s athletics administration does not oppose the transfer.
we just don't know if JT can satisfy any of these points right now. Maybe he can, but its possible he doesn't meet the tests for b & d.
a. The transfer is due to documented mitigating circumstances that are outside the student-athlete’s control and directly impact the health, safety and well-being of the student-athlete;
b. At the time of transfer to the certifying institution, the student-athlete would have been athletically and academically eligible and in good standing on the team had he or she remained at the previous institution;
c. The certifying institution must certify that the student-athlete meets percentage-of-degree requirements; and
d. The previous institution’s athletics administration does not oppose the transfer.
we just don't know if JT can satisfy any of these points right now. Maybe he can, but its possible he doesn't meet the tests for b & d.
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It is not clear that JT wanted to go back to Miami.
Sounds as though JT burned his bridges at Miami. Miami's loss is our gain. Welcome to the Illini JT!
Maybe the interest in going back, and being welcomed back, is so he can show he is "in good standing on the team."
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I think Ford has a better chance of being granted a waiver because it appears to be a single-issue situation: his grandfather is ailing. If the NCAA has a heart, he will be playing at Illinois next year. And Georgia, I don't think, should stand in his way or will.
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After the Petitbon transfer, if we somehow get waivers for both JT and Ford, and then Tate shows up later this summer, it is beyond rational argument that our program has been touched by some magical interstellar football god via inter-dimensional portals using a sophisticated combination of quantum mechanics and quantum physics allowing this other worldly being to alter the timeline for Illinois football.
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I really wonder how much time and effort the NCAA puts into researching these types of things. The cynical side of me thinks, not much.
Just make sure they also sprinkle some pixie dust on the defense.After the Petitbon transfer, if we somehow get waivers for both JT and Ford, and then Tate shows up later this summer, it is beyond rational argument that our program has been touched by some magical interstellar football god via inter-dimensional portals using a sophisticated combination of quantum mechanics and quantum physics allowing this other worldly being to alter the timeline for Illinois football.
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After the Petitbon transfer, if we somehow get waivers for both JT and Ford, and then Tate shows up later this summer, it is beyond rational argument that our program has been touched by some magical interstellar football god via inter-dimensional portals using a sophisticated combination of quantum mechanics and quantum physics allowing this other worldly being to alter the timeline for Illinois football.
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Lovie when his players mature
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Right, I think he may have totally kneecapped his chances of getting a waiver. The entire thing was pretty dumb and poorly handled by all parties!
I'd guess not much, also. I'd also venture to guess they probably won't look at each one 100% separately either. Like what are the chances that we get Thomas and Ford waivers, on top of grad transfers such as Petitbon, Miller, and (hypothetically) Tate. No way all that happens, right? Even if you take Tate out; no way all the others go our way, right?
I can't agree with this.
1. I'm not sure what evidence there is that he sought to return, but even if there is does the NCAA go that far;
2. Thomas initially sought to transfer presumably based on poor relationship with Richt and be closer to daughter realizing that he may not be able to play this season. Richt situation cleared up, but the daughter situation remains. Thomas had to balance a sure fire Junior season on the field (Miami) vs. a possible season on the field with proximity to daughter (Illinois.) He chose his daughter and Illinois ultimately . I can't blame him for flirting with a decision of sure thing playing versus a maybe. I don't see the inferred insincerity behind his hardship waiver when he is risking a thing of great value to his career for his young child;
3. Is the NCAA really going to say "no sorry your young daughter just isn't a good enough reason." There is a strong public policy reason to encourage his proximity to daughter and I would say significant backlash possible if he is denied.
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I would be shocked if Ford doesn't get a waiver to play immediately.
JT’s case is a lot stronger than Luke’s
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