Illinois Football Recruiting Thread

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illini80

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Illiniguy74 said:
Agree that the issue is not the paying of players. They deserve to be compensated in some fashion. However, if not done somewhat equitably, talent will be further concentrated on the wealthiest programs. This will result in super teams or a super league. Maybe that is what some want (ie, big time programs, dissociated fans who only follow the big time programs and the national media who analyze, discuss and promote the games).
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This has always been my fear. I know some here think Illinois can compete with the big programs in terms of donors. I look at a 3/4 empty stadium in one of our better years in the last 15 and question that. Not that we don’t have plenty of alums with money, but I’m just not sure we have enough big time fans with that kind of money. If I were a talented kid and one school offered $1M and another $100k the decision would be over. $100k is a really nice check, but that’s life changing money.
 
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Illini92and96

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Ander1345 said:
I don't think it will be as simple as NIL makes cfb an arms race. It's another factor to consider when choosing a school, sure, but players for the most part will want to play and NIL deals will be harder to come by if you're just gonna warm the bench.

Basically I'm still optimistic that if young men want to play football they will end up where they can play football.
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I have not been involved in the recruiting process, but I’ll bet it often comes down to a couple schools of similar success and the recruit assumes they will play at all of them. i imagine it will evolve to “I’ll go to x or y, but y will pay me XX more”. Not totally dissimilar to evaluating job offers in corporate America. And we’re not talking 50k. That amount is today at the infancy of NIL. Some school will escalate this to get ahead, just like facilities and coaches pay. Heck Ewers already set a baseline for a top qb at over $1m per year.

The way to do it is to create private athletic endowments that fund NIL $ in perpetuity. Alumni can keep adding to the pile, which enables the dollar payments to keep going up. Time to sell our beach houses and get the endowment started. I’ll personally sign up to pay the backup punter $100.
 
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mhuml32 said:
Werner also reporting Tyson Rooks is visiting this weekend. Unranked on 247 but has picked up a bunch of offers recently (Nine offers in the past two weeks. Mostly G5 programs but also Minnesota). 6'5" WR from Glynn Academy in Georgia.
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based on Walters/Henry being the lead on him, maybe a 6'5" safety in college? that would be wild!
 
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TX Illiniwek

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mhuml32 said:
This is a lot more rampant in college football recruiting than you realize and payments in their various forms have been fairly common for 40 years.
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For those of us old enough to remember.......
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illiniguy

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Illini92and96 said:
I have not been involved in the recruiting process, but I’ll bet it often comes down to a couple schools of similar success and the recruit assumes they will play at all of them. i imagine it will evolve to “I’ll go to x or y, but y will pay me XX more”. Not totally dissimilar to evaluating job offers in corporate America. And we’re not talking 50k. That amount is today at the infancy of NIL. Some school will escalate this to get ahead, just like facilities and coaches pay. Heck Ewers already set a baseline for a top qb at over $1m per year.

The way to do it is to create private athletic endowments that fund NIL $ in perpetuity. Alumni can keep adding to the pile, which enables the dollar payments to keep going up. Time to sell our beach houses and get the endowment started. I’ll personally sign up to pay the backup punter $100.
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Can someone start a GoFundMe for that?
 
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Illinois_2_AZ

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mhuml32 said:
Werner also reporting Tyson Rooks is visiting this weekend. Unranked on 247 but has picked up a bunch of offers recently (Nine offers in the past two weeks. Mostly G5 programs but also Minnesota). 6'5" WR from Glynn Academy in Georgia.
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We just got a crystal ball for him as well. Is he any relation to Thomas Rooks- the Illini RB from the 80's??
 
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217sports

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mhuml32 said:
Werner also reporting Tyson Rooks is visiting this weekend. Unranked on 247 but has picked up a bunch of offers recently (Nine offers in the past two weeks. Mostly G5 programs but also Minnesota). 6'5" WR from Glynn Academy in Georgia.
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thebrunswicknews.com

A RARE ROOKIE: Glynn Academy receiver Tyson Rooks has star potential

Tyson Rooks hasn’t played a snap of varsity football yet, and he’s already drawing comparisons to some of the best receivers the state has seen in recent years.
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Seems like a really good basketball player that decided to pick up football this year and showed well
 
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Ander1345

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Illini92and96 said:
I have not been involved in the recruiting process, but I’ll bet it often comes down to a couple schools of similar success and the recruit assumes they will play at all of them. i imagine it will evolve to “I’ll go to x or y, but y will pay me XX more”. Not totally dissimilar to evaluating job offers in corporate America. And we’re not talking 50k. That amount is today at the infancy of NIL. Some school will escalate this to get ahead, just like facilities and coaches pay. Heck Ewers already set a baseline for a top qb at over $1m per year.

The way to do it is to create private athletic endowments that fund NIL $ in perpetuity. Alumni can keep adding to the pile, which enables the dollar payments to keep going up. Time to sell our beach houses and get the endowment started. I’ll personally sign up to pay the backup punter $100.
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Yeah but you can work at a better paying job until you retire or get fired for some reason. NIL benefits have a shelf life of however long the athlete is eligible.

There's a realistic possibility imo that you could get more NIL benefits at a smaller school you play at vs a bigger school you have no chance of ever seeing the field at. Barring extreme scenarios of course.
 
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Illinois_2_AZ

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WR Sharod Johnson is leaving Syracuse and entering the portal. We had offered him out of high school. Maybe a package deal with DeVito? Edit: upon checking his college stats- they aren't that impressive.
 
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Illini92and96

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Ander1345 said:
Yeah but you can work at a better paying job until you retire or get fired for some reason. NIL benefits have a shelf life of however long the athlete is eligible.

There's a realistic possibility imo that you could get more NIL benefits at a smaller school you play at vs a bigger school you have no chance of ever seeing the field at. Barring extreme scenarios of course.
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"So you're saying there's a chance???"........ The vast majority of top players (say top 1000) want to play for a top program. There will be exceptions for academics and staying close to home, but not many recruits are saying "You know, playing in the SEC or Big 10 is not my thing. I'd rather play at Kansas, the MAC, or Conference USA." Second, the smaller schools, which don't spend big money on coaching salaries or facilities today are now going to change their tune and start paying MORE NIL than the schools that have proven they will pay big money? Ah, no. I think the Texas example shows that big time NIL is about rich alumni coming up to give money with nominal ask of the athlete, and not about local establishments paying huge endorsement fees.

I think your realistic possibility is not very realistic, but we'll found out.
 
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Money was flowing pretty good in the 60's around here! Anybody remember the "Slush Fund" that derailed Illinois sports for a good while. I heard directly from coaches how much money and houses were being offered to Oscar Robinson to come here. And even after that in the 70's I know the money pipeline started to open back up. Trust me on this I had "first hand' experience! :cool:💵💰
 
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TwoElevenEastDaniel

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Illinois_2_AZ said:
WR Sharod Johnson is leaving Syracuse and entering the portal. We had offered him out of high school. Maybe a package deal with DeVito? Edit: upon checking his college stats- they aren't that impressive.
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Since he decommitted from KY, I think if there's going to be a DeVito package deal, I'd hold out hope for him. (Doubt it, though.)

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Taj Harris, Rutgers Scarlet Knights, Wide Receiver

Taj Harris is a Wide Receiver from Palmyra, NJ.
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illinibb76 said:
Money was flowing pretty good in the 60's around here! Anybody remember the "Slush Fund" that derailed Illinois sports for a good while. I heard directly from coaches how much money and houses were being offered to Oscar Robinson to come here. And even after that in the 70's I know the money pipeline started to open back up. Trust me on this I had "first hand' experience! :cool:💵💰
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That's easy, I have complete trust in everything I read on the interwebs.
 
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Illini92and96 said:
I have not been involved in the recruiting process, but I’ll bet it often comes down to a couple schools of similar success and the recruit assumes they will play at all of them. i imagine it will evolve to “I’ll go to x or y, but y will pay me XX more”. Not totally dissimilar to evaluating job offers in corporate America. And we’re not talking 50k. That amount is today at the infancy of NIL. Some school will escalate this to get ahead, just like facilities and coaches pay. Heck Ewers already set a baseline for a top qb at over $1m per year.

The way to do it is to create private athletic endowments that fund NIL $ in perpetuity. Alumni can keep adding to the pile, which enables the dollar payments to keep going up. Time to sell our beach houses and get the endowment started. I’ll personally sign up to pay the backup punter $100.
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You need to look at the combination of new transfer rules along with NIL to get a glimpse of the future. Take Ewers as an example. Gets a huge NIL package from OSU. Stays one year then uses his "free" transfer. Looks at going to the schools he really wanted to in the first place and NIL doesn't have to really be a huge issue since he already has his $$$.
 
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