Agree overall, but even though all just a number, I’d put the magical cutoff line at more like consistently top 40 if Illinois is to maintain and build on last year’s success. That is basically equivalent to only last among all SEC and B1G schools and behind top 3 schools in the other P5 conferences. Sure it’s not an annual hard and fast number, but that ensures a solid base that can be elevated by some guys each year playing above (or well above) their ranking and then supplemented each year with some good transfers. Do that consistently and I think last year’s type of season can become more the norm with occasional years that flirt with relative greatness. I think BB and company can get us there. Now won’t that be fun?
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This is from a different year or something
Agreed. I like the current class because staff prioritized these players, got them on official visits, and received commitments. Compared that to possibility not getting commitments and then prioritizing backup plans.
I hear what you are saying...it goes to show just how bad recruiting had gotten since 2009 or so. We've gone from middle of the pack MAC level recruiting to competitively recruiting against mid-level P5 programs in a couple of years. Assuming good talent evaluation and good coaching, that's enough to get us to bowl games in most years. It also gives us a foundation on which we can take our recruiting to the next level, which would involve consistently beating the Wisky's and Iowa's and MSU's and occasionally landing top 100 caliber players
Well, mathematical anyway, a consistent and objective way to rank recruiting classes. “Scientific“ implies (to me) the outcome has predictive values re: results on the field. I suppose it does, but only indirectly, as it’s just one input among many. As many point out here, you need a minimum level of fundamental athletic talent for success, which hinges on much more than just recruiting the very best of the best performers on H.S. fields.
IOW, results = f (recruiting, individual coaching, play calling, playbook/strategy aligned with talent, weight training, motivation, fan support, and more). Recruiting is a necessary but insufficient input on its own. Sounds like we’re approaching the necessary level for success if we can excel at the others elements too.
Joel Goodson
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CB for the TE from Nebraska. Not too surprising
Joel Goodson
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give me all the nasty aggressive defenders:
Baker leaves a mark. We're gonna love him.
Baker leaves a mark. We're gonna love him.
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Joel Goodson
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so, it appears we're gonna harvest the lower-hanging fruit, but how 'bout some of the bigger dogs?
Honestly I would have even went lower than top 50 year in and year out but this forum might have turned on me.lol We are in agreement and it is about consistency. As long as we don't have random 100th ranked classes twice in a five year period things will be fine. BB specializes in certain positions where the recruits are rated lower and he can develop them. Between his system and the transfer portal it is just all for the fans to have fun with year round more than anything. BB had richer recruiting avenues to work from with Wisconsin and Arkansas. If he can somehow bring in that talent every year than we are talking special things.....(already love where we are but growth is constantly raising the standard for this program)
can we 5 or 6 more like him?
Was that a 'tie-straightening' gesture at the end? If so, I love it
TentakilRex
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One thing about these 247 ratings we have to remember is that is that they change until the final signing day. Hopefully we got quite a few guys who move up in the ranking (see Saboor Karriem).
The ranking numbers are fairly crap. More significant to me is what programs offered and who we are beating out for any specific recruit, plus my own eyes looking at a Hudl video.
The main thing that you have to remember is that there is tens of thousands of kids every year playing football, do you think that everyone one of them is being rated???
TentakilRex
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Absolutely
You can't rely on recruiting services on rating recruits properly. I take them as just another source. Hell. most if not the vast majority never played a down. Recruiting services don't have the time to watch every film and rank every recruits in the country properly. They will share a consensus on 5* players which is pretty easy to do but after that it's a crap shoot. I've watched 3* players that look like 4* and vice versa. It also depends on what team is recruiting the player. When a 3* gets an offer from Bama, GA, tOSU etc. he gets an additional star.
IMHO, look at each commits highlights and decide for yourself. I know it's the best plays the recruit has but, it's the best we as fans have. College staff can get game film and see every play for an entire season, meet the prospect, talk to his coaches and coaches that coached against the recruit. I trust BB and his staff.
IMHO, look at each commits highlights and decide for yourself. I know it's the best plays the recruit has but, it's the best we as fans have. College staff can get game film and see every play for an entire season, meet the prospect, talk to his coaches and coaches that coached against the recruit. I trust BB and his staff.
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TentakilRex
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I done a quick YouTube search and can do one better.... I got one Karsen Konkel's games at Pickneyville.
Red Bud 52 - Pickneyville 0 final score. Konkel is #9. btw
Only watched a few plays in this game (he had a tackle in the backfield in the game's third play), so have it YouTube scouts
. Plus Red Bud has a YouTube channel so we might be able to catch this year's Pickneyville game!"These losers ruined our shot at a big ten championship"
I like to imagine that he just pointed to Iowa prior to IU and is roasting them both with the same line. "Why does Illinois corn lean to the west? Because Iowa sucks and Indiana blows."
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