redwingillini11
White and Sixth
- North Aurora
Only thing worse than seeing Purdue get a bunch of four stars is seeing Mizzou get a top end five star.
Illinois Football Recruiting Thread
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It won’t matter…they’re miznoz lolol
They've legalized pay for play (like the rest of the SEC). It's something that all of the B1G is against (at least in writing). I like Josh and Bret's approach to NIL: use it to keep the guys who've proven to be worth the money instead of throwing it at some high school kid who hasn't played a snap at this level yet. I don't see how this approach is sustainable at all for Mizzou.
What does it mean "legalized pay for play?" Does that just mean they have more NIL money than we do? I don't get it (not trying to be sarcastic). Is it as simple as we have x dollars and Missouri has 3x? Thus, they can spend on recruits.
How is it not sustainable for Mizzou? They've landed Burden, Nwaneri, and likely will get Wingo shortly. How is loading up on talent via NIL not sustainable? They were able to keep Rakestraw, Abrams-Draine, their LBers, etc.
It seems we should aspire to that. If we landed Justin Scott (which is roughly the equivalent of Nwaneri), we'd be doing virtual cartwheels here and not being concerned if it was sustainable
I could be wrong but I believe it means that the recruits can receive money as soon as they sign a financial aid document with the school. So basically they can start receiving nil money before ever stepping foot on campus.
To some extent you only have so many donors. At least in the NFL when you pay someone you get some kind of return on investment. You basically don’t in most of the NIL world since no one owns the team. So, there could be some merit to paying for experience more than multiple high end freshman. IE taking Randolph and Newton over what it would cost to land Nwaneri and whomever.
Not talking about this year, more about medium to long term. I don't think they have the staying power and level of support to hang around with all the big brands in the SEC for very long
It’s smart because we recruit in the territory where most to all our freshman are not getting paid. Much wiser to invest in the experience than potential for college football.
I kinda wonder how those conversations go. For Newton, he was a projected mid round pick I believe. “Hey man we can NIL you a comparable amount to what your first year salary would be, so then you can work for the huge payday.” Now he’s a projected first round pick. Can NIL also pay for that catastrophic injury insurance?
Good programs will need to do both. But, you can't pay the Newtons/Randolphs of the world if they don't come to campus originally. There's no world in which getting a 5* commitment is bad or signals a challenging future. That kind of talk is just envy. We'd love if Nwaneri, Wingo, Burden, etc. committed to UI
Agree. Not denying it. Only stating that there is a limited pool of money and coaches will have to make calls on where that money goes even if they aren’t really supposed to.
mhuml32
- Cincinnati, OH
The NIL, public discussion, future of paying athletes, etc. is easier to swallow if you have comfort knowing that this [waving hands around] has been going on for many many years in the dark. Now that its public knowledge and "legal", it creates new questions (can I get a tax write off by donating this money to a collective even though it's just being spent so John Doe comes to our school?) but the exchange is still the same.
TentakilRex
- Land O Insects between Quincy-Macomb-Jacksonville
I don't where to post this (if at all), this was at Illini recruit Carlos Orr's high school and might have been a reason for Orr picking the Illini.
This is why you don't bring a picnic basket to practice
InDaAZ
- Eugene, Oregon
Won’t be the only one they get …
Krombopulos_Michael
- Aurora, Illinois (that’s a suburb of Chicago)
Pay for play ? Never heard of it …
Pay for AAU ? Can’t be …
Pay for kids to just unofficially visit ? We strictly follow NCAA rules around here my friend …
Illini92and96
- Austin, TX
Looking at mountains gave him vertigo so he wanted a flat landscape for as far as he can see?
Maybe that was Cal making a pitch to current recruits?
Yep, seems like Wingo is only a matter of time. This is an excerpt from a Rivals article today.
"The bottom line is that Missouri has lost the majority of its elite in-state talent for years and this is a problem that far preceded the current regime in Columbia. Imagine the product Missouri could have put on the field had players such as Jameson Williams Kyren Williams and many others stayed home. Drinkwitz was fully aware that the Tigers' most likely path to success would come by keeping the state's finest home, and he set out to find a solution. The solution came in the form of teaming up with former Missouri football player and current Missouri House of Representatives member Kurtis Gregory to pass a law allowing Missouri high school athletes the ability to profit off of their Name, Image and Likeness should they choose to attend an in-state school. The law comes into effect on Aug. 28, and it already appears to be paying dividends."
Joel Goodson
- respect my decision™
no bones about it, recruiting is a flippin' arms race. but at least it's mostly on top of the table now
hopefully they all take Miznoz's money for a year and then transfer
mhuml32
- Cincinnati, OH
Not to turn this into a legal/political discussion but I would be fairly shocked if this NIL state legislation isn't challenged by next year and struck down.
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