Didnt he do something stupid, making fun of us on his announcement day? Like we werent good enough for him.
Illinois Football Recruiting Thread
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mhuml32
- Cincinnati, OH
2020: Harbaugh's going to find another job. He tried but this was Michigan's worst season in a long time. He'll find another opportunity to save face.
2021: This year is different, he provided a major turnaround but this is the ceiling. He beat Ohio State, he won the Big Ten, he made the playoff, but Georgia is in a different class. There's also rumblings he wants to go back to NFL.
2022: He's getting serious interest from the NFL and there is the open NCAA investigation. He wants to get back to the pros.
2023: All of the suspensions are wearing on him, he'll want to get back to the NFL and get out of the NCAA scrutiny.
mhuml32
- Cincinnati, OH
Just looked this up, he only had 23 snaps this year after getting 5x that as a freshman. That would be intriguing. It's an interesting question about whether Rolder would raise the ceiling of the LB core enough because there's isn't a big need at that position.
mhuml32
- Cincinnati, OH
Had an Illinois offer, from St. Charles. That said, didn't play much at UW. Probably NIU type of landing spot.
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Illinifan533
- Normal, Illinois
Would gladly take Donovan McCulley, though.
Joel Goodson
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Joel Goodson
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I was thinking today about the messed up state of college athletics, and I came up with a hypothetical I want to make sure I'm thinking through correctly.
Let's say we have two identical high school recruits, A and B. They play the same position, same skill level etc. A comes to Illinois, B goes to a similar level program elsewhere. Both redshirt their freshman year while spending time working on strength and conditioning, they progress in both areas about the same. After their freshman seasons, B enters the transfer portal and comes to talk to Illinois. When considering A and B for the following seasons, B is MORE VALUABLE to Illinois than A right? If Illinois takes B onto the team, B can effectively guarantee that he will play for Illinois his redshirt freshman year AND he will either play for Illinois his sophomore year or he will play for no one (as he would have to sit out a year). A cannot make the same promise because he will still have his free transfer available. If both players have strong second years, other schools would have much stronger incentives to poach A than B from Illinois because A could play right away. So if A and B both came and asked for NIL money, it would make sense to offer more to B than A.
Am I missing something? Or has the current system put players at a disadvantage if they commit to the school they want to play for right out of high school? To phrase the question more practically: would Illinois pay Malik Elzy MORE NIL money if he were transferring in from Iowa State after his freshman year than the real Maliz Elzy will get after having played at Illinois his freshman year? Certainly having one year in the system is worth something, probably more valuable at some positions than others, but having the guarantee that the player cannot transfer freely may outweigh that, no?
Let's say we have two identical high school recruits, A and B. They play the same position, same skill level etc. A comes to Illinois, B goes to a similar level program elsewhere. Both redshirt their freshman year while spending time working on strength and conditioning, they progress in both areas about the same. After their freshman seasons, B enters the transfer portal and comes to talk to Illinois. When considering A and B for the following seasons, B is MORE VALUABLE to Illinois than A right? If Illinois takes B onto the team, B can effectively guarantee that he will play for Illinois his redshirt freshman year AND he will either play for Illinois his sophomore year or he will play for no one (as he would have to sit out a year). A cannot make the same promise because he will still have his free transfer available. If both players have strong second years, other schools would have much stronger incentives to poach A than B from Illinois because A could play right away. So if A and B both came and asked for NIL money, it would make sense to offer more to B than A.
Am I missing something? Or has the current system put players at a disadvantage if they commit to the school they want to play for right out of high school? To phrase the question more practically: would Illinois pay Malik Elzy MORE NIL money if he were transferring in from Iowa State after his freshman year than the real Maliz Elzy will get after having played at Illinois his freshman year? Certainly having one year in the system is worth something, probably more valuable at some positions than others, but having the guarantee that the player cannot transfer freely may outweigh that, no?
Insiders, any news at all with JoJo? Just saw his tweet, checked out his profile and no sign of Illinois is the bio (not sure if there ever was though). I hope nothing serious, I like that kid a lot and hope he continues to play here.
Saw that too, came here looking for the scoop.
This is far too simplistic. In your scenario, yes. If you are exactly as good as another guy, you could be better off going somewhere else and transferring to the school you really want. But that makes a lot of assumptions.
Not only would you have to be exactly as good as another guy, you'd both have to be the best on the roster and a starter. You could also look at it from the other side of the coin. Why would I give you more money, you can't transfer without sitting a year, whereas the guy who committed here originally could walk easily. So I'd argue, you need to pay the guy who originally committed more.
UW/Fickell have done really well in securing the WI kids we have identified and offered early. Would be nice to repay the favor a bit more for IL recruits
I'm certainly simplifying for the sake of the hypothetical, obviously no two players are exactly equal, but I think the larger point remains. But your point about future NIL is interesting. The player who is transferring in may be able to command more NIL money this year, as he is a more sure bet to stick around in subsequent years. But in those subsequent years, the transfer will likely get less NIL money because they have to sit out if they leave... maybe it all works out in the end, but it seems kind of nuts to me that a team can feel more confident that a transfer player will stick around on their team than a player who committed out of high school. I guess that's just the way it is now... (maybe always was?)
Hopefully his brand of football.is 10000x more boring then the old bo Ryan Wisconsin swing offense. Actually not taking away from Bo Ryan his brand of basketball is boring but was extremely effective Actually kinda wish wish Brad would throw a couple of his plays out for Rodgers this year.soory wrong thread
Cooper visited UI many times. I thought he might be our first commit. There has to be some good linebackers in Illinois for 25.
Joel Goodson
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As far as ILB goes: Rosiek and Odeluga improved tremendously from the start of the season until the finish. Ja. Kreutz showed flashes on ST and limited snaps. Hayden is on the depth chart with a year of learning and so is Hood(injured all year. ) Incoming potential impact player in Baker. That’s a good young base with great potential, but more depth needed.
I can't stop laughing at the piles of money. Hopefully he transfers to the beloved after the checks start bouncing...
(Justin Scott to Miami since Twitter links seem to not be working for me)
I could only find that he didn't include UM in his final 5 and then committed to them.
I didn't think he was dissing anyone so much as just assumed scum threw a duffle bag of cash large enough to possibly injure him...
He will be the bears coach next year
That makes entirely too much sense to happen.
If I'm Harbaugh I only take the job if Virginia McCaskey puts it in writing that Poles & George McCaskey will be locked out of the facility.
TentakilRex
- Land O Insects between Quincy-Macomb-Jacksonville
mhuml32
- Cincinnati, OH
Whoaaaaaaa, guess the faucet is still open down there.
There must be huge NIL at Miami to get a bunch of these kids to go halfway across the country to an underperforming school
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