Kramer
- Des Moines, Iowa
That coach above Ferentz named Christ might be tough to go against I heard he walks on water.
Illinois Football Staff Thread
That coach above Ferentz named Christ might be tough to go against I heard he walks on water.
But so does our new AD...
Harbaugh has a volatile personality. I think the amount of time between Super Bowl and collapse is telling. I'm not saying he's not a force. I will say that Lovie isn't college game tested but he might surprise, especially with AA athletes.
Urban is proven in the college game, period. Lovie is not but he's arguably seen football at a higher level. To compare the two seems premature. You mentioned Saban. A flop at the next level. Success or failure doesn't really translate a good comparison. So how do we know?
We don't know. Thus to be so absolute just seemed a bit premature. Just give him time to prove his salt here.
I wouldn't want to coach against that first guy though
Seriously though, I agree overall, good points. I think Chryst is solid and Wisconsin, until proven otherwise, will still be in contention every year.
Iowa, as a poster said, is up and down. Never seem to have stellar recruiting classes, but ferenz and staff usually coach 'em up.
Illinois definitely has he name recognition. Let's hope the coaching and recruiting match up. :thumb:
Spellcheck!!!!!!
It's the pitch. Then bring in better talent than rest of West and it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy
But we know, for a fact, what Urban Meyer is. He is a hall of fame caliber college coach. As far as Harbaugh, I don't think anyone honestly thinks Lovie at Illinois is going to out-recruit him. If he does, that's definitely an upset.
Again, I'm as excited about Lovie as anyone, but I'm not about to book a flight to the National Championship game just yet.
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Kramer
- Des Moines, Iowa
Well played Jimmy!
Fighter of the Nightman
- Chicago, IL
Not to mention the program itself. We're not there. We might not get there. We don't need to get there for this to be the fairytale unqualified success of our wildest dreams.
I don't think anyone believes Lovie is going to place Illinois on par with Michigan or Ohio St in 6, 12 or 20 years.
I believe however that most do think that Lovie can place us in a position to challenge them with a frequency not yet seen at Illinois and frequency which makes those schools take notice.
Don't disagree with the crux of what you're saying, but football is an entirely different animal than basketball.
LubbockIlliniFan
- Savoy, IL
I saw on terry hawthornes 's Twitter that he is on his way to champaign.
Future DB's coach???
Future DB's coach???
RHITIllini
- Chicago, IL
Doubtful.. but could be visiting with the new staff and possibly bringing a couple of his guys with him?
That was my thought as well.
Exactly...coaching can help a kid turn the corner...truth is with the new class getting this coaching from the start no telling what we have!!! Most these kids have been playing ball since 6. And are way better than us at it. Most of the hem did have 10 other offers don't forget. I see like 12 kids in this last class that with Lovie can be good... Some are even sons of former.NFL players...so they know the game... And have been around it. I think we are in for some surprises...
Depends on the recruit and what they are looking for...
It's like Tom Cruise coming in for your home visit and jumping up and down on your couch vs. Denzel Washington staring your Mom in the eye.
FeelYourPaign
- So Cal
Joel Goodson
- respect my decision™
To add to this, there's a night and day difference in stability. Hopefully, Holocek makes the leap. I'm optimistic, because he isn't going to have a better situation than now.
Yeah, I really can't blame him for turning down Cubit's offer. The situation now is much different as there is stability for the foreseeable future. If he wants to get into college coaching, this would certainly seem like a good starting spot.
South Farms
- near Ogden & Rt 83
Do we even have any idea at all that Lovie wants Holecek ?
Don't have to put the LB title on Nickerson for him to coach the LBs. Holecek can be the 'LB coach', but would primarily serve as a recruiter on the staff, but I don't see him being an option here. Lovie has shown a commitment to hiring his guys.
S&C??