Chris Yates
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Don't do this to yourselves. Charlie Brown can only have Lucy yank the football away from him so many times before he eventually stops trying to kick it.
Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (April-June 2016)
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Don't do this to yourselves. Charlie Brown can only have Lucy yank the football away from him so many times before he eventually stops trying to kick it.
Since Illinois doesn't have a scholarship for Moore at this point, (with the eligibility/return of Thorne, Abrams, Nunn and Tate still unknown), I am under the impression that he can commit, but not sign, with Illinois since the scholarship situation is unresolved.
Am I right in saying that since he is not required to sign a LOI with Illinois, he could commit now with the scholarship/eligibility situation in a mess and still have the option to immediately play elsewhere if by some miracle there's no spot for him on the roster? Or is Illinois going to get screwed and see Moore commit elsewhere because he doesn't want to wait and suffer through the uncertainty?
I hope I'm not over complicating it haha
I think you are making it harder on yourself than it is. Charlie Moore can commit and do whatever he wants, sign an LOI (if by deadline), sign a financial agreement, or elect to do neither.
But I think you have very unrealistic hopes to even think that there is the slightest of chances that he commits without having a scholarship guarantee. If Groce has offered, he will find the scholarship, as he was ready to oversign by multiple scholarships in the past. He has pretty much guaranteed him a scholarship.
Whether Moore decides to commit to UI is a totally different question though, nothing to do with him having a scholarship ready.
Great point but my feelings won't be hurt when he goes elsewhere and, honestly, I completely agree with you good sir and I definitely understand the absurdness of my unwarranted hope. I know Illinois will be more than alright without him and I suppose I also have some hope for a good number of their other recruits too even though I realize they will miss out on the majority of those prospects. I suppose I'm just trying to internally manufacture good news surrounding this program considering how the best news this basketball team has gotten since damonte's commitment is that Leron Black is only suspended for six games
Okay, thanks for the input! :thumb:
sacraig
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Have you ever read Peanuts? Charlie Brown never stops trying to kick the ball.
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I don't remember seeing this posted.
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Groce on some good bigs. Would prefer to get 3 bigs, a position of need. If we could get 6 recruits in the 2017 class, I would like Damonte, Pickett, Tilmon, John, athletic big (Victor U or Kiir), and talented SG/Wing (Goodwin, T Lewis).
I know there are several teams that have done well with small line-ups in the past (Villanova, Duke multiple years), but I like balanced lineups. A good PG, and two SG/Wings, and two big men. We need to solve our interior defense issues and rebounding.
I know there are several teams that have done well with small line-ups in the past (Villanova, Duke multiple years), but I like balanced lineups. A good PG, and two SG/Wings, and two big men. We need to solve our interior defense issues and rebounding.
midastouch11
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Choosing between Goodwin and Lewis in favor of taking three big men would be a mistake.
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One can only hope JG will be silver-tongued when he visits here.
Yep. Give me the players who gives us the best chance to win. Goodwin and Lewis do that for me
Justin Smith looks very good in his latest highlights, looks to have made the transition to a college WF instead of an undersized PF. Would take one of the top 3 (Goodwin, Lewis, or Smith), would like to get 3 bigs and a 6 man 2017 class.
We are very weak at the big man position. I think Self and Calipari do this best at the college level. If you look at Indiana this year, I thought they were built for a deep run. They lost 1-2 of their big men, but they still had depth with athletic bigs.
Go back and watch the Georgetown teams of the 80's. They not only had the talented center (ewing, mourning, matumbo) but solid back-up bigs and very bruiser type pf. They for the most part imposed their size on teams. Several mid-major teams this year had two starting bigs that would outmatch our past Illini team.
midastouch11
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Yeah, Kansas and Kentucky do everything well at the college level, and Illinois is not going to be either team. The teams not named Kentucky, Duke, Kansas or North Carolina have won lately by having better guards and tough 3/4's with versatility and rebounding. Illinois shouldn't be modeling itself after Kentucky, because it can't, it can try and replicate UConn and Villanova.
The 80's were great but they're long gone, that brand of ball is what Purdue tried this past year and for the frontcourt talent they possessed they fell short.
Joel Goodson
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Don't think Smith is feeling us.
IU was lead by a superior and experienced pg and had some of the best outside shooting in the country. In terms of impact big's, they only had one in the traditional sense in Thomas Bryant who was a burger boy. Troy Williams spent alot of time playing the 4 at 6'7".
And the fact that you referenced the 80s demonstrates what many others are saying - the college game has changed and guard play is more important in today's times. Bigs take time to develop and therefore guards come in more ready and capable of impacting the game.
Fast forward to today and the three point shot.
Joel Goodson
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Troy Williams is a 6' 7" jumping jack. Probably top 10%, if not 5%. It's been awhile since we've had a forward with that kind of athleticism.
Exactly! That's why I'd rather have Justin Smith and Tilmon vs Tilmon and Negron or Tilmon and John.
1) I don't believe Justin Smith is coming here. Wasn't there some hubbub about Groce giving him an in-home visit shortly after visiting Trent Frazier that didn't go particularly well?
2) Theo John may not be quite as freaky as a Troy Williams but he's no slouch athletically. If we landed Tilmon and John, that's an athletic front court we haven't seen in a while either. I get the 6'7" tweener athlete is in these days but we need legitimate post players to defend the interior, alter shots and grab rebounds.
Joel Goodson
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John >>> Negron, IMO. Agreed, Smith not feelin' us. Need 2 bigs in '17 class.
I haven't seen him play, but I've heard some very mixed things about Negron. Seems like he rebounds well with those long arms and has a good motor, but it doesn't sound like he drums up much excitement otherwise.
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