Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (August 2018)

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2018 average recruit ranking: 231
2017 average recruit ranking: 219 without Matic, if you count his the same ranking as Ebo, it drops to 277
It will never be that low ever again. He inherited a total trainwreck. A class of Guerrier, Liddell, and Tshiebwe/Cockburn cuts that average ranking in half, too. Let's pump the brakes on ragging on BU's recruiting. He's had one full year of recruiting and only one season with a sloppy team to show results. We'll be fine.
 
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Tacomallini

Washington State
Can anyone explain why Guerrier is even considering playing this year, 2nd semester? I get why Kipper had to do a similar 1/2 year, with his midseason transfer from Tulane, but wouldn't Guerrier be better off redshirting/waiting a year to get that whole year of eligibility?
That said, hope UI gets him in January!
 
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Can anyone explain why Guerrier is even considering playing this year, 2nd semester? I get why Kipper had to do a similar 1/2 year, with his midseason transfer from Tulane, but wouldn't Guerrier be better off redshirting/waiting a year to get that whole year of eligibility?
That said, hope UI gets him in January!
That would add a year of him not getting paid to play, and that's if he ends up being a 4 year guy.
 
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My money would be on Oregon on this one. They offered first and have a great coach....only KU and Duke would offer more proven commodities...IMHO. Can't imagine what Underwood can come up with to win him over.....but he needs to quickly.

Seems like all the guys that the Illini have built relationships with have gone elsewhere.....Okoro, Whitney. Liddell seems the final hope for a top Illinois bred player. But, BU has a style kids like to play and somewhat of a proven track record for getting things done against long odds. There are talented kids who like that....and a couple play for the Illini.
 
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Seems like all the guys that the Illini have built relationships with have gone elsewhere.....Okoro, Whitney. Liddell seems the final hope for a top Illinois bred player. But, BU has a style kids like to play and somewhat of a proven track record for getting things done against long odds. There are talented kids who like that....and a couple play for the Illini.

Foundations my friend, foundations. We are building them. Early on in the process it's about having our name connected with as many great prospects as possible. Then grow from there.....
 
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It will never be that low ever again. He inherited a total trainwreck. A class of Guerrier, Liddell, and Tshiebwe/Cockburn cuts that average ranking in half, too. Let's pump the brakes on ragging on BU's recruiting. He's had one full year of recruiting and only one season with a sloppy team to show results. We'll be fine.

Certainly the staff can turn it around with a great 2019 class, it's just not looking good right now. Plus, the usual bump in recruiting teams get when the hire a new coach, we completely whiffed on (other than Ayo, but that was more a personal relationship with Chin, not excitement for the Illini program). Add to that, the recruiting misses and how we've missed them are just too ludicrous to even recount.

I'll admit, one thing I've never considered, which may be a recruiting reality is that when you are recruiting guys ranked in the 200's and 300's that likely never dreamed they would get BigTen offers, then we offer them, give them official visits, show them love, etc then they spurn us for mid major U - it may be because the recruits themselves don't feel they are bigten caliber. That they would be in over their head. It's an odd recruiting scenario we are certainly not used to here, but maybe that is what BU is facing on the lower end - so he can't get the top 100 recruits because of competition and the guys 200 and lower don't feel they can play in the bigten, but I still don't see why he can't get frontcourt guys in the 100-200 range, that should be his sweet spot.
 
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My money would be on Oregon on this one. They offered first and have a great coach....only KU and Duke would offer more proven commodities...IMHO. Can't imagine what Underwood can come up with to win him over.....but he needs to quickly.

Seems like all the guys that the Illini have built relationships with have gone elsewhere.....Okoro, Whitney. Liddell seems the final hope for a top Illinois bred player. But, BU has a style kids like to play and somewhat of a proven track record for getting things done against long odds. There are talented kids who like that....and a couple play for the Illini.

Ayo says "Hi"
 
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Seems like a heavy Syracuse lean. O Canada!

If a player hopes to someday play in the NBA, they won't learn many NBA style defensive skills from Syracuse's zone defense. A young player would be better off going somewhere that plays tight man defense. Playing on a "positionless" team would teach the player the defensive skills needed to play the "switch everything" defensive trend going on in the NBA (that everyone is using to try to beat Golden State). Hopefully he is focused on skill development rather than driving distance from the border.
 
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pruman91

Paducah, Ky
Certainly the staff can turn it around with a great 2019 class, it's just not looking good right now. Plus, the usual bump in recruiting teams get when the hire a new coach, we completely whiffed on (other than Ayo, but that was more a personal relationship with Chin, not excitement for the Illini program). Add to that, the recruiting misses and how we've missed them are just too ludicrous to even recount.

I'll admit, one thing I've never considered, which may be a recruiting reality is that when you are recruiting guys ranked in the 200's and 300's that likely never dreamed they would get BigTen offers, then we offer them, give them official visits, show them love, etc then they spurn us for mid major U - it may be because the recruits themselves don't feel they are bigten caliber. That they would be in over their head. It's an odd recruiting scenario we are certainly not used to here, but maybe that is what BU is facing on the lower end - so he can't get the top 100 recruits because of competition and the guys 200 and lower don't feel they can play in the bigten, but I still don't see why he can't get frontcourt guys in the 100-200 range, that should be his sweet spot.

" completely whiffed on " ? I see you added a Ayo blip but then that is Not completely whiffed on , is it ?

Jones , Griffin ,Feliz etc hopefully show you how wrong you are in your assessment.....JMHO
 
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