Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (January-March 2016)

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For some reason 2 names keep popping up in my mind Trent Frazier and Paul Scruggs. Oh I guess recruiting is fluid.:)
 
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Recruiting appears to be a non-Newtonian fluid for Illinois. The more stress we apply, the more weird stuff ends up happening. Cliffmas, Snider, etc.
 
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Goodwin played football as a sophomore last year as well as this year. I watched them play a few times. Kid is a good receiver. I'd be shocked if anyone beats them in 3A this year. They lost a game early in the season to Highland when the football team was still playing and they were missing 4 starters. They also lost to Chaminade when Tatum went off in the 2nd half. They beat a good Chicago Kenwood team. Goodwin had 30. I really hope that he commits soon. With Pickett already committed and Goodwin coming aboard this could be Groce's signature class.

Hopefully with the changing of the guard and JW now on the job things will start coming up orange :illinois:.
 
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Goodwin played football as a sophomore last year as well as this year. I watched them play a few times. Kid is a good receiver. I'd be shocked if anyone beats them in 3A this year. They lost a game early in the season to Highland when the football team was still playing and they were missing 4 starters. They also lost to Chaminade when Tatum went off in the 2nd half. They beat a good Chicago Kenwood team. Goodwin had 30. I really hope that he commits soon. With Pickett already committed and Goodwin coming aboard this could be Groce's signature class.

Hopefully with the changing of the guard and JW now on the job things will start coming up orange :illinois:.


I'm hoping I can go to Peoria and watch Goodwin battle Charlie Moore for a state title. And by then Memphis will have already fired Pastner and Charlie Moore is committed to the Illini.
 
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Recruiting appears to be a non-Newtonian fluid for Illinois. The more stress we apply, the more weird stuff ends up happening. Cliffmas, Snider, etc.

Now there's a good emendation to the recruiting is fluid mantra! :thumb::thumb:
 
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I would also enjoy watching Damonte in the final against Goodwin. I just checked out the bracket and if things go as planned then Damonte and Moore will face off in the semi finals. But there is a lot of competition on that side of the bracket. Anything can happen, but Althoff should have a fairly easy road to Peoria.
 
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I would also enjoy watching Damonte in the final against Goodwin. I just checked out the bracket and if things go as planned then Damonte and Moore will face off in the semi finals. But there is a lot of competition on that side of the bracket. Anything can happen, but Althoff should have a fairly easy road to Peoria.
Ugh...... another recruiting problem. Champaign needs state back
 
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Ugh...... another recruiting problem. Champaign needs state back
I'd like this idea to be explored more. I'm not disagreeing, but how would the state tourney being played in C-U directly improve recruiting? I'm just curious to hear how this plays out, because I accept the tourney in Peoria as status quo (due to my age).
 
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I'd like this idea to be explored more. I'm not disagreeing, but how would the state tourney being played in C-U directly improve recruiting? I'm just curious to hear how this plays out, because I accept the tourney in Peoria as status quo (due to my age).

For the high school kid it used to be a big thing to play on the Assembly Hall floor in the tourny and for many kids that aura carried over to their college choices.
 
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For the high school kid it used to be a big thing to play on the Assembly Hall floor in the tourny and for many kids that aura carried over to their college choices.

Recruiting wasn't as national back then, I don't think it would have the same allure in this day and age, at least not to the big fish we are after.

I would prefer to have the tournament in c-u though as opposed to peoria
 
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CoalCity

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Recruiting wasn't as national back then, I don't think it would have the same allure in this day and age, at least not to the big fish we are after.

I would prefer to have the tournament in c-u though as opposed to peoria

Absolutely. After living out of state for so many years I was disappointed to hear that the tourney had been moved to Peoria. It was always a showcase for the Assembly Hall and now with the renovations, who knows...a kid could fall in love with it and decide that's where he wants to play. Any little bit helps.

:chief::ah:
 
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I believe it also helped with potential recruits watching the games on tv. Even if their teams did not make it to state, they knew of the Assembly Hall due to the telecasts. Not sure how much that would help in today's world. Not many young people watch the state finals like they did back in the day.
 
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We should renew Groce's contract with built in conditions that he land Tilmon, Damonte, Goodwin or equivalent players. 5 year extension if he gets all of them. Some lesser extensions if he gets some - giving them assurance he has security. Groce fails to deliver them- gone next year. Groce gets a good enough class, he's guaranteed security- so Tilmon doesn't have to worry that he'll be gone any time soon if he comes.
 
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ILL in IA

Iowa City
We should renew Groce's contract with built in conditions that he land Tilmon, Damonte, Goodwin or equivalent players. 5 year extension if he gets all of them. Some lesser extensions if he gets some - giving them assurance he has security. Groce fails to deliver them- gone next year. Groce gets a good enough class, he's guaranteed security- so Tilmon doesn't have to worry that he'll be gone any time soon if he comes.
I Like the idea, but my guess is the NCAA may have some problems with that.
 
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I Like the idea, but my guess is the NCAA may have some problems with that.

I'm sure it wouldn't be that frowned upon to have some sort of recruiting expectation stipulation, perhaps make it more to do with class rankings than necessarily landing individual players.
 
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ILL in IA

Iowa City
So the first move as a AD to make is put a recruiting stipulation on the contract of the coach. That will go over well for anyone we try to land as our next head coach. Let everyone know that your contract status will be held accountable by ranking services that have proven to be unreliable at times. This whole topic may have all been said as a joke. And I hope so. Because we toss out some good and bad ideas on here. This one falls in the don't quit your day job, I'm glad your not the AD at Illinois idea list.
 
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I'm sure it wouldn't be that frowned upon to have some sort of recruiting expectation stipulation, perhaps make it more to do with class rankings than necessarily landing individual players.

There's no way to have anything like that with any actual meaning in a contract. Incentive clauses are based on actual measurable accomplishments, like conference titles, NCAA bids or even team GPA. Can you imagine lawyers arguing over whether to use ESPN's rankings vs RCSI, etc? :D
 
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There's no way to have anything like that with any actual meaning in a contract. Incentive clauses are based on actual measurable accomplishments, like conference titles, NCAA bids or even team GPA. Can you imagine lawyers arguing over whether to use ESPN's rankings vs RCSI, etc? :D

Yes, I'm sure there are lawyers among us that have argued such on here :D
 
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Obviously all of us here are major Illini folks (otherwise we wouldn't be on this board). I ask myself when I looking at the program over the last 10 years - If I was a star basketball player in high school or middle school now... what would make me want to go to Illinois?

We could go on and on about playing time - but that seems played out.
 
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midastouch11

New York, New York

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