I'm trying not to look at it as a foul on a recruit of my favorite team, but as just a foul in a basketball game. I have a hard time calling it a dirty play if there isn't obvious signs of an intent to cause harm (shove, trip, body slam, etc...) In that situation your taught to prevent the layup, aka foul and make sure it's enough to prevent the and 1. The kid was just doing what he was taught, and got a little too physical doing it in a split second play. Unfortunately for us it had a bad ending, but it's the exact same kind of play we would have all been defending Leron for last season.
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I'm trying not to look at it as a foul on a recruit of my favorite team, but as just a foul in a basketball game. I have a hard time calling it a dirty play if there isn't obvious signs of an intent to cause harm (shove, trip, body slam, etc...) In that situation your taught to prevent the layup, aka foul and make sure it's enough to prevent the and 1. The kid was just doing what he was taught, and got a little too physical doing it in a split second play. Unfortunately for us it had a bad ending, but it's the exact same kind of play we would have all been defending Leron for last season.
Leron indeed committed some dirty plays. The fear was that he would be labeled as a dirty player if he kept it up. You can be physical when you're making a legit play on the ball, that is taught, but what this kid did is not taught, or at least it shouldn't be. He did not make a legit play on the ball. There's a difference between making a hard basketball play and an intentional foul, although I'll admit there are some grey areas. It's one thing if he would have waited a second and tried to make a hard block on the arm, but he didn't, he went straight for the body.
Of course, not everyone is going to agree. I mean, people couldn't even agree on this guy having some dirty plays last year.
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Updated 2017Scout rankings:
Tilmon to #10--how big would this be??
Bowen #14--package deal, maybe??
Scruggs # 28--can Groce sneak another Hoosier out of the state??
Williams #45--need to go the other direction DaMonte
Eastern #55--The forgotten recruit...
Goodwin #74--Purdue compete...??
Frazier #81--don't sleep on this one, Ford's got Florida locked down, too.
http://www.scout.com/college/basketball/recruiting/2017-basketball-prospects?start=90
Tilmon to #10--how big would this be??
Bowen #14--package deal, maybe??
Scruggs # 28--can Groce sneak another Hoosier out of the state??
Williams #45--need to go the other direction DaMonte
Eastern #55--The forgotten recruit...
Goodwin #74--Purdue compete...??
Frazier #81--don't sleep on this one, Ford's got Florida locked down, too.
http://www.scout.com/college/basketball/recruiting/2017-basketball-prospects?start=90
Tilmon, Williams, Goodwin, Come on please!!! 
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#13 - Kris Wilkes
#38 - Derek Culver
#43 - Malik Williams
#76 - Nickeil Alexander-Walker
#96 - Christian David
#100 - Justin Roberts
Theo John - 4 star that did not make the top 100
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State of Illinois (including guys that went to prep school) looks about like it does every year, certainly not loaded.
Bowen or Tilmon would be huge! We hear a lot about Tilmon but what about Bowen where does he stand?
Yeah, 2017 class was over hyped by many.
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He's a Michigan kid and CB has him 100% MSU. Tilmon's last 4 CBs have been for North Carolina and it seems like every time I read about a La Lu game Carolina has somebody there.
Bowen and Tilmon room together @ Lalu and you know that they visited C/U together, now run with that info.
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Bowen and Tilmon room together @ Lalu and you know that they visited C/U together, now run with that info.
Man don't tease me haha, all I ask for is 1 but shoot if both of them come!
Wish him the best. I hope that kid is suspended, just ended TL high school career and may impact his first season in college. Dirty play, he was running with a bent elbow setting up the shoulder.
But isn't the difference the downstate shift vs. CPL? In the past, Parker, Okafor, and other big names we were never really in the game, just feels like we have a better shot in 2017 with more downstate Illinois kids in the mix. In the last couple of classes we have chased a lot of out of state talent...Evans/Thomas/Moore/Bragg... and even JCL/Black/TJL.
so hopefully a higher hit rate on Ill kids that are ranked highly.
Long way to go yet in 2017, but we need a banner class in 2017 & there is still some hope it could be our best class in recent memory. I think success will be measured by the quality of the bigs and pg in the class, and particularly how good and real is the backup plan to Tilmon.
Theo fell from #79 to out of the top 100 because we were in to see him twice in the last 4 months.
Nice to have so many 5*s.
I would accept any kids 4/5 *s who would commit ASAP. A study stream of 3/4/5, mostly 4s would be good for the program.
I would accept any kids 4/5 *s who would commit ASAP. A study stream of 3/4/5, mostly 4s would be good for the program.
Hopefully, Groce can land a 5th year transfer that can defend the post and rebound to round out this class of '16.
Thus, placing all his eggs in the '17 basket for a 6 man class. I like the strategy. Of course if he can land a class of '16 big, I would take that too.
Thus, placing all his eggs in the '17 basket for a 6 man class. I like the strategy. Of course if he can land a class of '16 big, I would take that too.
nobody over there knows that
But he's committed to UCLA?
Hungry 3*s that fit our needs are very good too..
And then in three years when we realize they're not talented enough for B10 basketball we can get mad for having recruited them right?
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