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Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (July-August 2017)
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IMO, we are the one if Gators don't have room. OA has made impression on him.
Says in scout article, wants done with recruitment b4 season starts, and will take all visits.IMO, we are the one if Gators don't have room. OA has made impression on him.
I wish I could agree, but looking over his offers, I think the odds are against us. Of course, you can say that about most recruits. Hopefully, we'll have a better idea after his visit. At the moment, I still think we end up with Conditt.
Speaking of Conditt, he just got a WKU offer a couple of days ago.
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This doesn't make any sense.... look at his offers? What does that mean? He obviously likes what Illinois has to offer. Academics are very important for him as well which bodes well for us.
Illinois offered him in early May and I agree we definitely have a decent shot. However, he now has multiple offers from a range of competitive schools that have captured his interest and expanded his options. In turn, that makes his decision more complicated. It's captured in the Rivals article from a few days ago, in which he had good things to say about a number of schools:
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Strange that you seemingly ignore the rest of the article that states he's set two official visits, including Illinois. And pretty much names us as the leader as long as Florida doesn't offer him for 2018 (they want him to wait until 2019).
EDIT: went back and realized this whole conversation started from this same article, which makes the cherry picking even more odd.
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Really hoping to make Ngumezi's Top 5 today. Hasn't had much affection on here compared to Castleton & Conditt. Could be a force. Good offer list, but only other Big 10 looks to be Rutgers. Love to have him and if nothing else it'd be nice to Castleton have some competition to consider while on 9/1 OV.
No cherry picking intended--I simply read the article differently from you. You have to remember, the article gets an Illinois slant because the target audience are Illinois fans. I would say we have as good a chance as any one of the 2018 contenders of getting Castleton, but I am less confident of getting him than of getting Conditt. He said he may even wait until spring to decide--it sounds to me he's caught between making a decision this fall on his second choice or waiting and hoping that a position opens up at his dream school, Florida.
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That will be an interesting list. At the end of July he said that Georgia, Clemson, UAB, Florida Gulf Coast and Wichita State were recruiting him the hardest, but we had just offered, along with a half dozen other high-level programs, all within the course of a few days. If we make the cut, it means we've been giving him some serious attention. One thing is clear--BU intends to make Illinois a destination for players nationwide.
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So Rivals only targets Illini fans? Interesting, you'd think they'd try and attract fans from other schools as well. Seems like they might be leaving some money on the table here. We do have a large fan base but I don't think it's enough to make that kind of influence.
(Not directed at you kuhl84, just a general rant)
I know everyone is different, and each situation is different, but this part of recruiting is what baffles me.
Unless your heart is set on a particular program, like for us on here Illinois, how do you not drop a program like Kansas if in fact his offer is not commit able right now?
Think about it: you are a high four star, five star prospect. Granted there are others ranked higher than you, but if University A is not willing to take your commitment right now, what does that tell you?
I get it for three stars, maybe low four, but for Ayo?
Disclaimer: this response just addresses rumors. None of us know for sure if his offer is committable at this time, nor if he has dropped Kansas, just not "officially." It is more of a rant about the process.
I went through the process with my son for another sport, albeit D3. Schools that did not reciprocate interest were dropped. Schools with interest but lukewarm, or put him as a back up target were also dropped. Maybe that is just me/us?
If Kate Upton isn't sure she wants to date you and is thinking about some other guys, but eventually says yes, are you going to say nope you were looking at other guys I'm going to pass.
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Ayo's aim is to be a professional athlete. When a school that has a LARGE sample size of producing athletes who continue to get paid to play basketball into their 30's, you pay attention regardless of their level of interest.
Has he even chosen a high school yet?
There is a huge benefit for any prospect, independent of ranking, to get a publicized offer from one of the top name programs in college basketball, regardless of whether this offer comes with contingencies (e.g., timing, other players, etc.). It increases his personal marketing and brand value tremendously. At the same time, their is an element of goodwill towards powerful HS and AAU programs when schools like Kansas extend such offers. It is a two way street with benefits from both sides.
More like if Kate Upton just wants to flirt, not even go on a date.
Or you ask Kate to the dance, and she says hold on, I want to see if someone else asks me first.
Difference is, with all due respect to all on this board, I am guessing we are not in Kate Upton's "class" of dating. More like if we were more like Justin Verlander, and she still held us off
End of silly analogies, sorry for the diversion. The point being, if I were a five star, I would be turned off by being put on hold by KU, and yes I recognize KU is a better program than ours.
As has been shown often, the NBA will find you anywhere.
I get your point, but Im inclined to believe that AAU reputation and marketing may be the most significant factor driving the "pile up the offers" mentality.
On "increases his personal marketing and brand value tremendously..." I find it a little scary that shoe companies and nba teams give a 20 to 22 year old nba candidate kid who comes out of a B10 school...give him "extra points" for a Duke, UK or KU offer that he did not sign as a 17 year old. But maybe that happens..?.[emoji11]
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Probably not. He's between 7th and 8th grade this summer. Still a year of middle school to go. And Bailey has been playing for Meanstreets so he's not automatically going to Morgan Park, although I'm sure they'll be trying to get him to join the Fire and MP. It'll be interesting. I've heard Henricksen raving about the kid since last year.
Reminds me of Ryan Boatright here in Aurora when he originally verballed to Southern California. His father lived on the West side and his mother on the East side and he didn't decide on East Aurora until the week before his freshman year started, about 2 months after he committed to Floyd.
It has nothing to do with signing an offer or the NBA, but there is a tremendous marketing value for a D1 prospect, and their AAU and HS programs, to have publicized offers from the big name schools like Duke, UK, KU, UNC, etc., no doubt about that.
Also, there is absolutely no evidence that KU's offer is not real or committable. It is speculation, more likely wishful speculation, from random posters on this board who have no idea about the actual communication between KU/Self and Ayo. Ayo is a high ranked prospect and KU offering a high ranked prospect, or multiple ones, even at the same position, is not really that strange.
Skinner is not far from Whitney Young, however since WY is a selective enrollment school, he is not automatically able to attend WY like a Morgan Park or Simeon. He will have to qualify academically. Not saying he can't, I have no clue just commenting on the process. However, I believe Skinner is a top grade school, so . . .
Yep and Id believe there may be some degree of marketing value in the selected school able to say "we beat UK (or other blue blood) for (x player)" .
My bet though is that most coaches would take an early commit over that potential brag factor succeeding over bluebloods for a recruit.
Ayo's Kansas offer is just another Self/Howard effort to pi** off the Illini Nation.
Think so. Hearing that they won't have enough rides to take any back up options and that the Devon Dotson/Zion Williamson package deal is very much alive and well in Lawrence.
If Zion and Dotson both head to KU that leaves them with one ride.
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