Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (November-December 2016)

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EJ33

San Francisco
Just because these are internet celebrities who are 6'8" doesn't mean they aren't still 17 year olds. Letting kids choose colleges totally independent of other influences would be great for schools with hot girls and great weather, but would be disastrous for the Cornell's of the world.

I wanted to go to UNLV once. My parents quickly disabused me of that notion.


When you're dealing with an AAU coach who is personally being paid under the table to pressure a player and than money doesn't flow back to a kid and his family, that's shameful. But when the family wants to put a kid in an environment they can control, or accept financial benefits that will improve their lives including the kid, that's just rational decision making.

People tend to think this is all about hundred dollar handshakes and envelopes of cash. We know that happens, but I suspect the schools that do the best job of influencing recruits with financial benefits help families with access / introductions to good jobs.
 
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People tend to think this is all about hundred dollar handshakes and envelopes of cash. We know that happens, but I suspect the schools that do the best job of influencing recruits with financial benefits help families with access / introductions to good jobs.

THIS!!
 
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It must be Kansas and Self's bagman J. Howard that has thrown a wrench into the recruitment would be my guess ?
 
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Don't know if this makes me feel better or worse yet.

We should refer JT's camp to the story of Cliff Alexander.
 
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What is the deal with Kansas? What did ILL do to Self/ Howard to deserve repeatedly being played like Willie Lump Lump???
Apparently Howard plans on staying out of state permanently! I mean how many times do you stick it to a former? What is the source of the bad blood?
 
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If it's true SLU isn't in the picture, it sounds like JT is simply seeing how the season plays out in regards to Groce's future, like others have implied. Kansas getting involved again isn't a shocker in that case.
 
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If it's true SLU isn't in the picture, it sounds like JT is simply seeing how the season plays out in regards to Groce's future, like others have implied. Kansas getting involved again isn't a shocker in that case.

Just another reason why I say this season is one of the most important in program history. It will definitely dictate the trajectory of the program for the next few years.
 
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If Groce proves that he can't coach this team this year you want to keep him for another year just for one recruiting class he would under achieve with? Just playing devils advocate and what may be the situation. I am fine with keeping Groce barring a complete collapse.

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If this is the case couldn't the AD provide the necessary declaration that this isn't a thing?

That puts Whitman in a tough spot though to guarantee Groce's job next year on one single recruit wanting him. Not how an AD should run things.
 
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Those comments are just a smoke screen. No inside info but he's got to be thinking about flipping to SLU. Ford hires former AAU coach. Goodwin commits. He moves back to EStL. Gordon commits. That's where everything is pointing, that's got to be why he's not signing.
 
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Those comments are just a smoke screen. No inside info but he's got to be thinking about flipping to SLU. Ford hires former AAU coach. Goodwin commits. He moves back to EStL. Gordon commits. That's where everything is pointing, that's got to be why he's not signing.
I think people are forgetting the only reason he transferred to La Lu is because the East STL teachers were on strike so he was scared he wouldn't be able to graduate on time. La Lu was a school that would let him play right away. Any other IHSA school probably would have made him sit out a year.

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ILL in IA

Iowa City
It's always been brought up in the past, and recruits either weren't ranked high enough, or bigger schools were involved with the same shoe company. Don't see that as the case here. If NIKE won't help now, I don't see it ever happening.
 
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ILL in IA

Iowa City
People tend to think this is all about hundred dollar handshakes and envelopes of cash. We know that happens, but I suspect the schools that do the best job of influencing recruits with financial benefits help families with access / introductions to good jobs.

I forget who was posting a lot of info about couple years ago with the pg/big man recruits from Texas. But wasn't it discussed State Farm and a potential job transfer.....
 
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