Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (November-December 2017)

[FollowTisdale]

Wow. I didn’t realize GCU is a for profit school. Hard to justify that move unless it’s his only option.

Yea, even as a dumb 18 year old I would have known the risk of going to a college that could be regulated out of existence in < 10 years.

 

[IlliniBrave75]

Calloo=247 Sports Composite #269

Rivals and 247 show offfers from Florida, Kansas St., Mississippi St., Providence, and South Florida.

 

[ceverettsdinosaurs]

Finke was obviously a plan B/C for Illini and Vanderbilt. Illini signed Ayo and are looking for a shooter. Vanderbilt just got a verbal from Garland and lead for Langford.

Makes sense Finke would want to regroup and solicit some offers for a spring signing.

Not sure why he chose GCU, though. Can’t make sense of that one. He isn’t projecting towards a professional basketball career, and his degree may or may not be worth much depending on who’s reviewing his resume. I just don’t see how that decision is in his best interests. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Maybe it’s just a “temporary” commitment to demonstrate his dad didn’t boot that player for his benefit?

Personally, I’ll be shocked if he ends up at GCU.

As TCTornado pointed out Colangelo has had a large hand in the development of the GCU program. I wouldn't be surprised if Colangelo was involved in getting Finke to commit as well. He might have a connection to Tim's father as fellow alums.

 

[ILLHangOut]

As TCTornado pointed out Colangelo has had a large hand in the development of the GCU program. I wouldn't be surprised if Colangelo was involved in getting Finke to commit as well. He might have a connection to Tim's father as fellow alums.

I get that. They have a Collangelo Museum. I just don’t understand how it’s in Tim’s interest to commit to them now; with or without Collangelos involvement.

I suggested it may be to take some pressure off of his dad. Are you suggesting Collangelo incentivized the Finkes in some other manner?

 

[sbillini]

I agree with this

I made similar arguments in the FBI corruption and THT recruitment threads (i.e. adults - and more importantly parents - using their kids as pawns for their own gain and the kids the only ones with something to lose). I was surprised with the pushback I got. I think there's a lot of people out there that disagree for some reason(s).

 

[Illiniwek06]

I get that. They have a Collangelo Museum. I just don’t understand how it’s in Tim’s interest to commit to them now; with or without Collangelos involvement.

I suggested it may be to take some pressure off of his dad. Are you suggesting Collangelo incentivized the Finkes in some other manner?

Maybe Tim Finke is significantly overrated by this board.

 

[TCTORNADO]

Maybe Tim Finke is significantly overrated by this board.

Haha, he's not the only one!!

 

[LouAlcinder]

But what is the cause????....does anyone really know what happened???....lets find out more first....then if there was an injustice and the BOE doesn't correct the injustice...then the boycott would be warranted....imo.....and I'm speaking as a retired school administrator

The coach, AD, probably Dee, and soon the school board knows what happens, that's all that matters. Skipping school to protest this issue is a joke, you should know that as a retired school admin.

 

[tpbradley]

The coach, AD, probably Dee, and soon the school board knows what happens, that's all that matters. Skipping school to protest this issue is a joke, you should know that as a retired school admin.

I think this storyline is so interesting it probably deserves its own (non-recruiting-related) thread, no?

 

[Illiniwek06]

Haha, he's not the only one!!

Haha fair. :thumb:

 

[TCTORNADO]

On June 28th Tim Finke released his final 5--Illinois, Oregon, Vandy, tOSU and ND.

 

[Illini B-Ball Fan]

I think this storyline is so interesting it probably deserves its own (non-recruiting-related) thread, no?

YES, and btw, who's up next the Illini are recruiting that may help out in 2018?

 

[Deleted member 633632]

I made similar arguments in the FBI corruption and THT recruitment threads (i.e. adults - and more importantly parents - using their kids as pawns for their own gain and the kids the only ones with something to lose). I was surprised with the pushback I got. I think there's a lot of people out there that disagree for some reason(s).

Thank you for making this post! i am extremely board at work this morning and you gave me ample enough reason to go and read the entire THT commitment thread...

After he announced, i was so salty i couldn't even look at that thread or the recruiting thread for weeks! but enough time has passed, and there's just too much interesting stuff in that thread! So thank you!! :thumb:

 

[TheGMan]

I think this storyline is so interesting it probably deserves its own (non-recruiting-related) thread, no?

Yes! Please! Just to make it easier for me to ignore it.

 

[goillini30]

Finke would have to sit entire year if he transferred to a private without changing residence. If he moved, he would have to sit out at private or public until 2nd semester.
I don’t believe that Coach Finke would have ever cut a player to benefit his son. He had to have solid reasoning on why the player should not make the team. I know of no coach that would do that without good reason. Most likely there are other issues that he cannot divulge. I am sure the AD is aware of these reasons and supports him otherwise it would never have gotten to the school board level.
To encourage students to skip school in protest has to be the most asinine thing I have seen from a protest. What will this accomplish? Whatever adults that are supporting this protest should be embarassed. To do anything that interferes with a students education and their chance at a better life is criminal!

I work with someone who used to coach a different sport at Central and he said there is at least 1 assistant coach who didn't agree with the decision, but that assistant wouldn't say anything more than that.

 

[goillini30]

Wow. I didn’t realize GCU is a for profit school. Hard to justify that move unless it’s his only option.

Look up clips of their home crowds, it's absolutely bonkers. Most of the high majors would kill to have home environments like that.

 

[TCTORNADO]

Austin Colbert has started the first 2 games this year for Hampton University.

 

[Tevo]

Austin Colbert has started the first 2 games this year for Hampton University.

Austin lives on! Seems like he's been around for 17 years. That's probably just because the Groce era seemed like it went on for a decade...

 

[LannyBudd]

Tim Finke to Grand Canyon
https://twitter.com/scottybscout/status/930610773998604288

Good for him, gotta love the for profit university aspect because those institutions in the post Trump University era have such a solid reputation. In all honestly, he wasn't the greatest shooter, growth plates are closed, ball handing is okay, growth plates are closed, not spectacular against upper echelon competition, growth plates are closed. Oh yeah, did I forget to mention his growth plates are closed.

 

[TCTORNADO]

Austin lives on! Seems like he's been around for 17 years. That's probably just because the Groce era seemed like it went on for a decade...

November 15th, 2012

 

[Illiniwek06]

November 15th, 2012

Every time I see this pic, I have to ask - does anyone know where to find a link for that hat? I will purchase immediately.

 

[TownieMatt]

The Tim Finke recruitment is a great case-study for why you don't accept commitments too early. TF was a borderline five-star, top 30 kid two years ago. Now he's going to Grand Canyon University.

These kids developed at different rates. Finke was an early bloomer who had size and athleticism as a 16 year old. Sometimes having those traits too early can actually be a detriment to your development because you rely on them instead of developing your skillset. As other kids caught up physically with Finke, he fell behind.

What happened to Finke isn't unique. Even without the bizarre off the court stuff, Kezo Brown was in a similar situation before committing to Chicago State. Ben Coupet a couple years ago was also similar, high ranking nationally as an underclassmen before falling away later as other kids caught up physically.

 

[7yearillini]

He may not have been a perfect fit for BU's offense, and maybe BU didn't want him, but I sure was hoping he'd be around in the spring as an option. Even the Duke's take guys like Alex O'Connell (and play them). Would have been nice to have him as an option.

Has he signed a letter of intent, do we know?

You may want to buy shares and submit a shareholder proposal to withdraw the scholarship.

 

[Illini Parent14]

The Tim Finke recruitment is a great case-study for why you don't accept commitments too early. TF was a borderline five-star, top 30 kid two years ago. Now he's going to Grand Canyon University.

These kids developed at different rates. Finke was an early bloomer who had size and athleticism as a 16 year old. Sometimes having those traits too early can actually be a detriment to your development because you rely on them instead of developing your skillset. As other kids caught up physically with Finke, he fell behind.

What happened to Finke isn't unique. Even without the bizarre off the court stuff, Kezo Brown was in a similar situation before committing to Chicago State. Ben Coupet a couple years ago was also similar, high ranking nationally as an underclassmen before falling away later as other kids caught up physically.

This. Great explanation, TownieMatt. The only thing left to explain is why people on this board were so fascinated by Tim Finke after it became clear that Brad Underwood and his staff were not nearly as interested in him as John Groce and his staff.

 

[TownieMatt]

This. Great explanation, TownieMatt. The only thing left to explain is why people on this board were so fascinated by Tim Finke after it became clear that Brad Underwood and his staff were not nearly as interested in him as John Groce and his staff.

I think the casual fan sees the inflated recruiting site ranking, along with the family connection, and says 'hey, surely we can get this kid, and he must be good, he's a 3/4 star!'