Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (October 2016)

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Polar opposites is probably overstating it, but I do think Crean's history puts him on the far edge of the spectrum of coaches that use this kind of strategy. I'm not sure where Groce fits, but so far I don't see much of a history on his part.

As far as frequency, Crean is one of the worst offenders. But frequency, in comparison to Groce and recruitment at hand, also has to do with opportunities presented. There have not been that many opportunities for Groce to do so, because Indiana has been recruiting at much higher level with respect to top recruits and has had higher expected NBA attrition. But as far as when the opportunity presented itself, even in the absence of NBA defections, Groce had no problem using that practice. That has been established, and I believe you have agreed already.

So with respect to Wilkes recruitment, that started this, it is obviously irrelevant (i.e., IU has expected NBA attrition, and Groce would obviously also do it).

Now the statement that I responded to was stronger (i.e., loyalty/integrity) that extends beyond oversigning. I'd rank Crean much lower obviously, but my opinion of Groce does not put him on the other end of the spectrum or even close to it (and I'm actually OK with that). I'll leave it at that, so we can get back to Wilkes/Kiir recruitment.
 
#552      
The millennial in me doesn't exactly appreciate Kiir retweeting pro VCU tweets during his visit, but it's par for the course. This kid likes the attention & fwiw champaign is showing him some love. I get the impression he won't commit this weekend and will also let the VCU love shower down before deciding.
 
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UofIChE06

Pittsburgh
I hear its going to be Indiana for Wilkes he wont leave Indyits not happening!!!

I didn't even know Butler was involved with Wilkes!! Or am I way off base and it is going to be Devry University. That would be a real shocker for all those crystal balls.
 
#554      
ESPN has updated his page.
Mayan Kiir
6-9, 215 | Class of 2017

HometownBradenton, Fla.
SchoolVictory Rock Prep
PositionPower Forward
StatusUndeclared
Scout Grade
82
17 POSITION
27 REGIONAL
5 STATE
95th
Recruiting Activity
Scouting Report
Player News
SCOUTING REPORT
ESPN Analyst
Updated 08/31/2016

Strengths:
Kiir is an extra long, athletic, hard playing aggressive power forward that attacks the rim on the break where he finishes above the rim on all clear paths. He and see the ball well for his size and has pretty good touch in and around the lane with comfortable range out to about 15 feet. He is a rim level rebounder in and out of his area and a high energy shot blocker.

Weaknesses:
In addition to adding strength Kiir will need to work on his back to the basket scoring package.

Bottom Line:
Kiir is talented with size, length and toughness. He makes plays and is.a high major prospect with continued hard work and development. His upside is tremendous.
 
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Hands Malone

Quad-Cities, IL
The millennial in me doesn't exactly appreciate Kiir retweeting pro VCU tweets during his visit, but it's par for the course. This kid likes the attention & fwiw champaign is showing him some love. I get the impression he won't commit this weekend and will also let the VCU love shower down before deciding.

Nothing wrong with getting a few steak dinners before you decide.
 
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landon02

Illinois
Well we will all know no later than next friday Wilkes decision will be made this week.....
 
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Wilkes announced last week that his decision is coming soon. He cancelled his remaining visits. So there are very good chances that it is sometimes this week, or at worst, he announces a venue and time this week.

Wilkes has been a regular at Hoosier Hysteria, which this year is on Oct. 22. That is a clear inflection point (attending/not attending), so his decision will be before that. JMO.
 
#561      
He's not an insider, just likes to pretend he is

He is an insider. Like most of the ones who have come on this board and tried to blow smoke. For Tillmon going to SLU like he stated awhile back he is making sure he spends a lot of his time recruiting for a school he isn't going to go to.
 
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landon02

Illinois
Illinigman or whoever u are i have so many sources that im so confident in and thats who i get my info from and all i do is give u guys info i hear and u want to bash me for it get a life
 
#563      

Dan

Admin
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#564      
I read the above post by TCTORNADO on Oct 2 so I thought Wilkes' mother did not go with him to the Indiana official visit ??? Does anyone have the real answer to this ??

Did some digging and his Mom and little brother were there but they didn't come until later on Friday after little brother got out of school. So initially it was only Kris and his Dad.
 
#565      
Illinigman or whoever u are i have so many sources that im so confident in and thats who i get my info from and all i do is give u guys info i hear and u want to bash me for it get a life

Well you maybe right on one but you should probably get rid of all your sources cause they are horrible. This one really isnt going out on a limb with Indiana. Still waiting for SLU to get Tillmon and Scruggs to come down to Xavier and us. Instead of saying sources which is why you are bashed better off saying my opinion because like stated ur sources are horrible.
 
#566      
This would make a good team::)

JCL (#38 RSCI)
Black (#46 RSCI)
Tilmon (#25/247)
Wilkes (#18/247)
Ayo (# 27/247)
 
#567      
Illinigman or whoever u are i have so many sources that im so confident in and thats who i get my info from and all i do is give u guys info i hear and u want to bash me for it get a life

I mean this in the nicest way possible but you're never going to be taken seriously on this board due to your past posts. I recommend a fresh start. I don't believe OldFatGreg is taken.
 
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jjh22003

Maricopa, AZ
Surprisingly nothing on Kir's visit. Anybody got any news on how his visit went?
 
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Joel Goodson

ties will be resolved
This would make a good team::)

JCL (#38 RSCI)
Black (#46 RSCI)
Tilmon (#25/247)
Wilkes (#18/247)
Ayo (# 27/247)

Not chopped liver, that's for sure. No expectations on Wilkes, but, obviously, hoping. We'll know soon enough.

BTW, substitute Ramey for Ayo. ;-)
 
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Well you maybe right on one but you should probably get rid of all your sources cause they are horrible. This one really isnt going out on a limb with Indiana. Still waiting for SLU to get Tillmon and Scruggs to come down to Xavier and us. Instead of saying sources which is why you are bashed better off saying my opinion because like stated ur sources are horrible.

I mean this in the nicest way possible but you're never going to be taken seriously on this board due to your past posts. I recommend a fresh start. I don't believe OldFatGreg is taken

^^^ This +10000000000

We all appreciate legit inside info. As others have stated, it's not much of a reach to say Wilkes is headed to IU. Most people here feel this way anyways. The problem is you have zero creditibility because you always come on here with "info" that never came to fruition, but you are so adamant about it every time. I'm just waiting on ILLOB to show up and make the exact same claim as you just did. You 2 always show up at the same time, what's with that
 
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illinoisfan11

Peoria, IL
Let's be real. If you're not luckylefty, your word, your "sources" are taken with a grain of salt.

While I think lefty's resources are actually solid, even he was wrong about Goodwin. The reality is that very few people have any real "inside" info on recruits. And those who do likely aren't looking to ruin their sources by spilling the beans on a message board.
 
#574      
Let's be real. If you're not luckylefty, your word, your "sources" are taken with a grain of salt.

This isn't directed at you specifically fivestar but unless you're John Groce, it's virtually impossible to be correct on every recruit. By the time it goes through the grapevine and gets to an "insider", even one who's very connected, it's likely been at least slightly altered. We've all played telephone as a kid and know how this works. No one, even lefty, can be right every time. Let's cool it with the pitchforks.
 
#575      

Chris Yates

Recruiting Correspondent
Michigan
I know this is your favorite thing to do. So now go back and also quote every time he was right. Also include the caveat that when he posted that it was the general consensus. Right before it got gray with SLU.

Before Ford handed him the key.
 
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