I am very curious how the definition of booster versus sponsor will work with respect to NILBy “reportedly already lined up companies that are pledging flat money to recruits” do you really mean “retained”? Pretty sure all this does is allow them to do this over the table and will make it that much harder for the ncaa to punish wrongdoings. How do you prove this persons value at UNC isn’t $1m to send a 10s clip to a very wealthy and loyal diehard fan?
Absolutely nothingso what happens when he gets there and it ends up being nowhere close to $1M?
Social media manager, brand manager, marketing manager, and sports agent are all actual jobs.
You may begin to see new extremes (already seeing it with the money)… and that’s when the illusion many of us have enjoyed will cease.Kidding, right? It's been that way for forever.
I hope you are correct. Time will tell on how much $ can be generated.Same definition, but different in that I think we are top 15.
Nohas it officially been announced garcia to unc ???... saw the Goodman tweet, but anything else ??
I will just say this, and time alone will give the true answer, if we have the ability to raise big market money why do we have the second highest debt load in the country? We are not raising the money other schools are. Sure we have pledges spread out over time. Others have cash in hand. And clearly more in the pockets ready to deal.RE: Illinois not being a “big market” … ridiculous.
1) There are about 2 million people in Central IL alone (and more in pretty major metros/TV markets like C-U, B-N, Peoria, etc. than people think … i.e., it’s not very rural, population-wise). Whatever people want to say about our instate fan support, it’s as rabid in Central IL as anyone’s anywhere in the nation.
2) There are about 4.5 million people in all of Downstate IL, which is pretty big for a “fairly dominant territory” for a team. As an example, even assuming Wisconsin had no instate competition for fans (obviously not true with Milwaukee and Marquette), we’d already be barely below them before counting ANY of Chicagoland.
3) We SHOULD count Chicago as our market. Not only do we have 250,000 alumni in the area (FAR more than any other school), but we are also one of VERY few teams that non-alumni Chicago fans (like me!) will support. The Illini gear and coverage REALLY picked up last spring as we were hitting our stride.
4) None of this counts the more basic fact that we are in one of the most high-exposure conferences in the country and coming off of a season that truly reinvigorated our fan support. This isn’t about “best,” it’s about “biggest” … and we are as big of a “market” as anyone but about a handful of schools, IMO:
BLUE BLOODS
1) Kentucky
2) North Carolina
3) Duke
4) Kansas
5) UCLA
6) Indiana
7) Louisville
TEAMS CLEARLY “BIGGER”
8) Syracuse
9) Ohio State
10) Michigan
11) Texas
You can make arguments for additional schools like MSU or Arizona depending on what you’re valuing, but the media markets in which you are covered is going to matter more, and that SHOULD favor us if we play our cards right. If Ayo plays for any other school, there isn’t a billboard of him in Downtown Chicago that says “Illinois’ Own Draft Pick.” We will still lose to the Blue Bloods a lot (what’s new?), but this benefits us more than the vast majority of schools.
I could see that happening, but it will be similar to office hours for a professor or TA. You make it available and make sure people know it exists, but there are no guarantees that people will actually utilize those services. I would expect every player will make time to attend the first meeting or two just to get an idea of what's possible or realistic. Beyond the first few meetings, only the truly determined/stubborn/marketable will remain engaged.True, but don't you think that will come with the offer? In other words, the program will provide all the support staff (provided the player needs/wants it) if they really want the player?
In the coaching world, compensation is often divided up into categories. Coach gets $x for coaching, $x for media obligations, $x for academic progress or other PR related goals, and then they also usually get performance bonus, for example making the tournament, etc..
I would expect the market for NIL will go a similar route for the following reason: the program will want to push the risk onto the player. So if they offer a player $100k in support staff, and the player lays an egg on social media, the program will be insulated from the downside risk. The really elite guys will be able to dictate terms and guarantees, but they programs will want to structure offers in a way that protects their interests.
If there's one thing we've learned from the NCAA over the years --PR disasters are survivable, but losing money will not be tolerated.
The ultimate gray area. This is a legal way for boosters to buy the top prospects. I’m curious what happens when one of those players transfers away from a blue blood after making those deals - can those deals be contingent on who they play for?I am very curious how the definition of booster versus sponsor will work with respect to NIL
This works, but I would be that at a certain point someone is making deals to get recruits and promising guarantees and maybe even just flat out giving large chunks of money for use of their NIL - if the company buys rights to their NIL for say, 1 year, and then they tweet using that players Twitter, doesn’t that fall into the legal realms of NIL?I could see that happening, but it will be similar to office hours for a professor or TA. You make it available and make sure people know it exists, but there are no guarantees that people will actually utilize those services.
should know in a day or two. we have a ton of playing time to sell thoughDo we know how realistic landing obanor is? I’ve heard Arkansas is going after him, but his 3 point percentage is very appealing.
The same thing that happens when players are promised certain playing time and don’t get it. Transfer market opens its arms wide againso what happens when he gets there and it ends up being nowhere close to $1M?
The whole discussion of recruiting changed July 1. Depending on the player, the “fit” may be more about NIL for them than anything else. I know everyone thinks they can play in the NBA, but good lord if these guys make a couple $M going to the right school for 4 years they are set for life. Or at least they should be.Do we know how realistic landing obanor is? I’ve heard Arkansas is going after him, but his 3 point percentage is very appealing.
Connie Hawkins says hello.You may begin to see new extremes (already seeing it with the money)… and that’s when the illusion many of us have enjoyed will cease.
When gambling, e.g., begins to exert its influence on players and outcomes … what would you expect? Real sport???
I’m gonna be sick