Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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New staff hasn’t earned coffee . . . yet.
alec baldwin put that coffee down GIF
Disagree. Chester has already upgraded our ‘21 class. Epps/Harris > Storr/Bass. He gets coffee!
 
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Illini Dawg
Seattle
Not sure what is "misleading" about that statement. As Combes simply stated. Hamilton was, in fact, rated #1 in the country while we recruited him.
Hamilton also played class A ball so maybe that?
 
#54      
JJ had an awesome visit this weekend. Spent a little time with him and Geoff before the football game and He was loving it...eating up the love he was getting. Said some really really encouraging things. Now just keep Cal and OA/Chin away and get some good NIL projections for him....
Hope they didn't spend too much time at the football game. Boos from your own fan base isn't a good look.
 
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OA and Chin also missed on top 60 guys.
They didn't really light the world on fire as far as getting top-ranked guys. Miller top 30, Ayo - 30s, Curbelo and Kofi - top 50. Those really aren't than impressive in themselves. However, what they (and Underwood obviously) did is find guys who were generally more productive than their ranking. Ayo, Kofi, and likely Curbelo are/were more productive college players than their rankings would indicate. Same for Giorgi. And I think J Grand was an excellent find also.
 
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They didn't really light the world on fire as far as getting top-ranked guys. Miller top 30, Ayo - 30s, Curbelo and Kofi - top 50. Those really aren't than impressive in themselves. However, what they (and Underwood obviously) did is find guys who were generally more productive than their ranking. Ayo, Kofi, and likely Curbelo are/were more productive college players than their rankings would indicate. Same for Giorgi. And I think J Grand was an excellent find also.
OA and Chin pulled in 5 top-50 guys in a 3 year span. Groce pulled in I think 2 in his entire tenure. This staff hasn't pulled in any top-50 guys yet (Epps' best ranking is 60). I think this staff is going to do great when it's all said and done, but I think it's fair to say they haven't lit the world on fire yet. I think the point made earlier that they've done a good job getting a foot in the door but still need to show their closing ability is a good one.
 
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OA and Chin pulled in 5 top-50 guys in a 3 year span. Groce pulled in I think 2 in his entire tenure. This staff hasn't pulled in any top-50 guys yet (Epps' best ranking is 60). I think this staff is going to do great when it's all said and done, but I think it's fair to say they haven't lit the world on fire yet. I think the point made earlier that they've done a good job getting a foot in the door but still need to show their closing ability is a good one.
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OA and Chin pulled in 5 top-50 guys in a 3 year span. Groce pulled in I think 2 in his entire tenure. This staff hasn't pulled in any top-50 guys yet (Epps' best ranking is 60). I think this staff is going to do great when it's all said and done, but I think it's fair to say they haven't lit the world on fire yet. I think the point made earlier that they've done a good job getting a foot in the door but still need to show their closing ability is a good one.
Also, OA and Chin were getting those top 50 guys when Illinois was still in the dumpster, which helped bring us back to where we are now, so we should be thankful. The new staff just needs to continue that roll. I think they will.
 
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Also, OA and Chin were getting those top 50 guys when Illinois was still in the dumpster, which helped bring us back to where we are now, so we should be thankful. The new staff just needs to continue that roll. I think they will.
All due respect to Chin. 2 of his top 50 recruits were from his former AAU program. 1 left after a single season.
 
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Uh, and one was the single most important piece of our turnaround. Your point?
My point is…. It’s not like Chin was some Ace recruiter pulling top 50 players from all over the country. He was very good at recruiting from a single Chicago AAU team. Don’t get me wrong, I’d take him back in a second. I just think he is a bit overrated as a recruiter.
 
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My point is…. It’s not like Chin was some Ace recruiter pulling top 50 players from all over the country. He was very good at recruiting from a single Chicago AAU team. Don’t get me wrong, I’d take him back in a second. I just think he is a bit overrated as a recruiter.
The 3 current assistants will be better recruiters, as well as coaches, than Coleman. The question is, did Ayo come to Illinois because of Coleman or did he come because he wanted to play at Illinois?
 
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My point is…. It’s not like Chin was some Ace recruiter pulling top 50 players from all over the country. He was very good at recruiting from a single Chicago AAU team. Don’t get me wrong, I’d take him back in a second. I just think he is a bit overrated as a recruiter.
True, but isn't that also kind of what we're asking Anderson to do? It's not like we replaced him with a guy who's strength is as a national recruiter.
 
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True, but isn't that also kind of what we're asking Anderson to do? It's not like we replaced him with a guy who's strength is as a national recruiter.
Pretty sure Tim Anderson had the following credentials:

1. ran an NBA draft training camp which brought in players from all over the country.
2. Strong ties to Meanstreets AAU program
3. Has actual NCAA coaching experience.
4. His brother played in the NBA.
 
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Gents, this is like my Dad can beat up your Dad. We have three tremendous asst. Coaches. Watch Geoff Alexander's drills and coaching. Don't recall that level of coaching during Weber or Groce tenure. Tim Anderson is awesome as well, preps players for NBA. Chester Frazier is great as well.

Not worried about recruiting, hoping we get more top 30's but feel we will consistently land the top 50-75 players.
 
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Pretty sure Tim Anderson had the following credentials:

1. ran an NBA draft training camp which brought in players from all over the country.
2. Strong ties to Meanstreets AAU program
3. Has actual NCAA coaching experience.
4. His brother played in the NBA.
And yet the only recruits I've seen him linked with are Meanstreets kids. His prior coaching experience is with DePaul. He's a Chicago guy through and through. Which is no knock on him. I think it's a good idea to have a Chicago recruiter on staff, and I'm optimistic he'll end up being even more successful than Chin. Let's just not pretend he's was brought on for his national recruiting chops when it seems clear his strength is with one (huge) AAU program in one (very important) city.
 
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Chin I believe brought in Podz and Tevian Jones. TJones didn't pan out but at the time it looked like a great get. So at least two players outside Chicago area.
 
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And yet the only recruits I've seen him linked with are Meanstreets kids. His prior coaching experience is with DePaul. He's a Chicago guy through and through. Which is no knock on him. I think it's a good idea to have a Chicago recruiter on staff, and I'm optimistic he'll end up being even more successful than Chin. Let's just not pretend he's was brought on for his national recruiting chops when it seems clear his strength is with one (huge) AAU program in one (very important) city.
You are creating a straw man. I never said that Tim Anderson was some superstar national recruiter. I am a fan of Chin Coleman and everything he did for this program. He is just over-rated as a recruiter.
 
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OA and Chin pulled in 5 top-50 guys in a 3 year span. Groce pulled in I think 2 in his entire tenure. This staff hasn't pulled in any top-50 guys yet (Epps' best ranking is 60). I think this staff is going to do great when it's all said and done, but I think it's fair to say they haven't lit the world on fire yet. I think the point made earlier that they've done a good job getting a foot in the door but still need to show their closing ability is a good one.
I’m gonna need a list of those top 5. I seem to struggle at counting and only count 4
 
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