Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread
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It's Underwood's decision to make, for sure.
That said, IMO there are coaches who are too stingy with PT for developing players, and don't send enough of a message that guys will be rewarded for the effort and progress that they're making. Every coach has their own opinion on 'win now vs develop talent', and you usually see it play out when the schedule is soft vs conference games. Coaches have intense pressure to win now, I get it. But I do think you need to let guys play and make mistakes in real game situations or it affects them negatively and the coach will ultimately lose more than they gain. Gotta share the sugar. Where coaches draw the line is very personal decision, but I think guys need to understand they can make mistakes and still see the floor. The pressure late in the season and into the post season is different, and guys have to be confident, supported, and prepared for it.
There's no one right answer. Every player is motivated differently, handles pressure differently, and faces different obstacles. That's part of the art of coaching --to keep them hungry, confident, and focused. You really notice it in the post-season, and I think the best coaches and players are good at peaking at the right time.
The Portal = Good or Bad for College Basketball? The Good = parity as opportunities for talent to transfer efficiently keeps the blue bloods from dominating year after year; provides mid-majors with opportunities to acquire talent, develop roster depth and make a run. The Bad = crutch is now available as D1 athletes who have never experienced adversity look for greener pastures that don't exist; impacts coaching decisions during the season as coaches lose leverage; roster unrest = more resources allocated toward developing a program.
My take = while I see the benefits of the portal and appreciate them, it is Bad for the game and should be regulated away by the NCAA.
My take = while I see the benefits of the portal and appreciate them, it is Bad for the game and should be regulated away by the NCAA.
4 out of the 5 players you refer to in your master game plan are gone. Seems like an awful lot of words for a what if scenario that has absolutely no chance of happening.
I’m sure Coach Underwood had his reasons to not play Podz. He’s the Head Coach and he calls the shots. Regarding Miller he was very talented but also he was a MIF player and don’t think that didn’t carry some weight.
Kendall Gill didn't play much as a freshman and we know how that turned out.
Your good is not accurate. UNC got Brady Manek and Dawson Garcia as transfers, who were both stars on other good P5 schools. Manek could be viewed as their best player, definitely in their top 3. Kansas picked up Remy Martin from Arizona State who was their leading scorer in 3 of their tournament games. Kentucky picked up Tshiebwe, who was their best player from West Virginia. Baylor's top 2 scorers are transfers their #2 guy being at Georgetown and Arizona first. Not a blue blood but 2 of Auburn's top players are transfers one from Georgia one from UNC. Where would Miami be without Charlie Moore or McGusty (great name for a hurricane player btw)? The list goes on and on. But the fact is, kids now know have a great season and you can end up almost anywhere you want.
Now your team can benefit too. We would have probably really struggled without Plummer this year. Dainja could prove to be a key player in the future.
However, as a whole, I hate these free transfer rules. Transfers need to occur. Some kids just find themselves unhappy and need to get out. That's fine. Sometimes you find that you aren't going to get PT and need a new team, also fine. But it is now flat out free agency. People on here are bemoaning the loss of favorite players, that will now be common place. We had a Fr starter leave for pete's sakes. So those transfers can hurt you as much as help you.
If you look at these high school kids, I've been utterly baffled that they will go to 3 or 4 schools in their high school career. Do the parents only care about basketball? do they not want to be a part of their kids lives during some pretty crazy years? are they moving with them from school to school? Regardless, these kids are bouncing from high school to high school looking for that best offer. Do we honestly not think that will happen at the college level now?
Don't get attached to players. Don't look forward to seeing a guy grow and become great as an upper classman. Heck, a coach that can develop players loses value, because you don't need to develop anymore. If they don't come in ready to play, just poach an upperclassmen from someone else.
Illini in OC
In. The. Alley.
ginabackes00
CrazedUIFan
Maybe it’s best to say the staff and player are reevaluating playing time and what’s best for the player overall. Sometimes it’s not their skillset, i.e. Curbelo, and sometimes it’s game time on the court. As we continue to improve recruiting and look to improve through the portal, we should see two to three transfers a year, the new norm.
altgeld88
- Arlington, Virginia
Solid gold, my friend, and I'm delighted to see the number of LIKES you've received for it. You saved me some typing there this morning. I, too, have marveled continually at BU's amalgam of tenacity in the pursuit of victory and petty vindictiveness in putting adolescents in their place. It's simply masterful.
Newmark4thFloor
- Houstown
Quoting BU from his interview, does anybody know who is he talking about?: "It’s speed dating today. That’s what the portal is. We lost a young man last year, we couldn’t get him into school, we couldn’t take him. Ten minutes later, it was on Twitter where he was going to school. That’s speed dating. You have to have your core values."
sacraig
- The desert
Imagine being the dude being paid to act like he's asleep through almost the whole video. I bet it was a deceptively challenging but of acting.
altgeld88
- Arlington, Virginia
... or heavy sedation.
JFGsCoffeeMug
BU:1 Trash cans:0
- Chicago
It was suggested earlier in the thread that BU was referencing Kyler Edwards, who ended up transferring to Houston. No clue if correct.
Never underestimate the value of petty vindictiveness.Solid gold, my friend, and I'm delighted to see the number of LIKES you've received for it. You saved me some typing there this morning. I, too, have marveled continually at BU's amalgam of tenacity in the pursuit of victory and petty vindictiveness in putting adolescents in their place. It's simply masterful.
Once he got on campus imo it had no impact whatsoever. BU isn't going to allow external forces influence or make decisions for him nor should he. That's a big reason why Adam left. Some wanted him to be the primary ball handler but that was not BU. Adam was better and earned what he got and was physically more ready for the B10 when he was a freshman than most players are. However Underwood us no one's puppet. He makes his own choices and isn't going to be manipulated by MIF or anyone especially once they arrive to CU
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In today's environment = Probable lawsuit.
With 2 5th year bouns scholarships, what would have been your 8th man becomes your 10th man. No good teams are rolling 10 deep consistently. The rotation guys need to get used to playing together. Last year was a weird one to be a HC. A lot of unprecedented situations were thrown at these guys to make adjustments on the fly. I’d say BU did pretty well.
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
Kyler Edwards played 3 years for Texas Tech. He committed to Houston on April 14. Alfonso Plummer committed to UI on April 17.
Joel Goodson
- ties will be resolved
Think I still have that issue somewhere
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