This is what will be the death of college basketball. We have greaseballs like Adam Papas creating inflated Bull$hit NIL bidding wars for the "services" of "student athletes". You think any of these "agents" give 2 fs about these kids or destroying college sports as we knew them. It's gonna be about a bunch of "agents" making as much money for themselves, as fast as possible for themselves, by driving NIL to outrageous numbers. I can see good coaches walking away because this is NOT what they signed up for. This is nonsense. Rant over
Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread
- Status
I mean how is this any different than what coaches were doing with their agents?
I didn’t verify but read that supposedly he has the same agent as the kid that just signed… ruthless.
Spot on!
Yes because they are grown !!! men working there profession. Not a "student athlete". The coach is a professional who has busted his !!! for years, earned his strips, paid his dues, worked his way up the ladder.... and was once and UNPAID student athlete himself most likely.
I’m in the minority here but I’m done with all this NIL and transfer portal BS. Wish the NCAA would have shut it all down. The NCAA basketball world would not end if all the 5 and 4 stars didn‘t choose to go to college. It’s not like the basketball product would suddenly disintegrate with teams full of 3 stars only scoring 20 points a game and turning the ball over 40 times. There would still be rivalries, drama, and good basketball to enjoy. Now where is that cloud I can go yell at…
sacraig
- The desert
DB11Headband
- Chicago Burbs
skyIdub
Winged Warrior
That’s a funny way to spell Bryce Hopkins.
GrayGhost77
- Centennial, CO
JFGsCoffeeMug
BU:1 Trash cans:0
- Chicago
And...we have a response.
Newmark4thFloor
- Houstown
LAD tonight??
That seems like a fitting conclusion to day 8,783 of 2022 Portal-Drama-Rama=Ding-Dong.
Just kick back to the halcyon days of 2017, when the idea that such a tweet was possible would be hilarious..
It's a lot different. True, there were always sleazy agents and a bunch of coaches cheating. But generally speaking, there were many more honest coaches, even if their reason for honesty was fear of getting caught. Now it is a blatant bidding war. And don't say it always was because that is simply not true. Not even close to this degree. I love college basketball because of its amateur status, even if it had been infiltrated by cheaters. But amateur basketball is over. Maybe that's more fair for the "student athletes" but I for one will miss it. If I wanted to watch professionals I would turn on the NBA.
Future Walk-On
- Peoria, IL
I get where he is coming from. I thought NIL money would be reserved for the loyal student athletes the alumni/boosters loved.
Imagine you work somewhere for 4 years and lead a massively successful project for your company that makes them millions... and then they hire on some random who, while skilled, brought their former company nothing and they are making 2x what you are.
So on the NIL stuff, some people seem to think the NCAA can make it go away. They can't. NIL is now a legal right. That's the precedent the Supreme Court has set. Like it or not, college athletes have a right to profit off their name, image and likeness. That is not going away. Ever.
There's an easy solution to the things people don't like about NIL. NCAA allows schools to employ and directly pay players as employees of the school, and sign multi-year deals to do so, and sets a cap on how much schools can pay.
It's unlikely to happen in our lifetimes though because once players start to get a piece of the NCAA's revenue, there's no turning back, and the NCAA knows that. Better for profits to have payment come from willing third parties. But allowing schools to sign multi year deals with players and capping salaries would help resolve two of the main complaints - constant transfer churn and lack of parity.
There's an easy solution to the things people don't like about NIL. NCAA allows schools to employ and directly pay players as employees of the school, and sign multi-year deals to do so, and sets a cap on how much schools can pay.
It's unlikely to happen in our lifetimes though because once players start to get a piece of the NCAA's revenue, there's no turning back, and the NCAA knows that. Better for profits to have payment come from willing third parties. But allowing schools to sign multi year deals with players and capping salaries would help resolve two of the main complaints - constant transfer churn and lack of parity.
There’s a lot of truth in what you’ve said here. What I wonder is… just how long will those third parties be willing?
It will be interesting to watch the donors adjust. How many Porsches do you give away that result in 1st round upsets, a transfer after half a season, or phone calls from greedy uncles wanting to renegotiate after every game winning basket, before you walk away.
The NBA owners like the requirement of some time in college to protect them from themselves, otherwise they get stuck having to speculate millions on high school kids. Even one year of division one informs a draft decision quite a bit. NIL has moved the speculation to a bunch of donors with a link to the 247 ranking. Suspect the donors will be a driving force to end the chaos.
The NBA owners like the requirement of some time in college to protect them from themselves, otherwise they get stuck having to speculate millions on high school kids. Even one year of division one informs a draft decision quite a bit. NIL has moved the speculation to a bunch of donors with a link to the 247 ranking. Suspect the donors will be a driving force to end the chaos.
We are definitely in the irrational exuberance phase of the open money era.
DeonThomas
- South Carolina
I'm particularly interested in this phrase from your post...........
Is it true that you've been talking over the past year with multiple NCAA coaches who work at consistent winning programs? (I ask because the number of programs who appear consistently in the Top 25 is probably in the range of just 15-20. So this means that as one of our Illinois Loyalty insiders you're conversing with coaches at the likes of a couple of these programs ------ 1. Duke 2. UNC 3. Syracuse 4. Kansas 5. Texas 6. Florida 7. Kentucky 8. Michigan State 9. Michigan 10. Ohio State 11. Illinois 12. Purdue 13. UCLA 14. Arizona 15. Oregon 16. Xavier 17. Baylor).
THAT'S PRETTY DARNED IMPRESSIVE --- AND WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU SHARING INFO WITH US!!!
sacraig
- The desert
I guess my question would be what changes if they moved to the NBA, where free agency is already a thing? I suppose the major difference is that players are signed to a contract that keeps them at a team for some number of years so it's possible to plan ahead, so is the solution to simply have more ironclad NIL contracts that cover multiple years?
The future may be now, young man, and I am willing to accept it, but don't tell me I have to like it. Eventually it will ruin the game that we old bastards loved.
Last edited:
- Status