Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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Dan

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Welcome to the Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread :illinois:

2024 Illini Recruiting
Morez Johnson (2024 PF) committed on November 4th, 2021.
ZZ Clark (2024 G) committed on April 18th, 2022.
 
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hd anything GIF
 
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So uh, that Matthew Mayer news is pretty significant, right? Curious what people think of him and how he would potentially fit here. Take him over Nance? Try and get both still?
 
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Has Grandison ever released any official word? He's been pretty quiet. We know he's in the Draft right now, but not really a Draftable player. Still have 3 rides left, so I'm sure he could have one here if he wants one.

Hutcherson would certainly improve pro prospects if he played D1 ball ANYWHERE. Wonder if he put his name in the Portal before the deadline. If not, it might just mean he's done with Basketball and ready to move on with his life (he was in Gies for grad school in Management and a mainstay on the All-Academic List so I'm sure he has a bright future ahead of him even if basketball is not a part of it).
 
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Illinois: "It was big to get that offer. They were my first Big Ten offer and it had me thinking like I'm finally getting noticed for all of this hard work that I've put in. There have been a decent amount of schools recruiting me but they didn't want to take that chance and make that offer so I really appreciate Illinois for that first big offer."


 
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So uh, that Matthew Mayer news is pretty significant, right? Curious what people think of him and how he would potentially fit here. Take him over Nance? Try and get both still?
The "rumors" seem to indicate Nance has an interest, whereas I have no reason to think we have any connection to a former Baylor player from Texas. So I think you'd be crazy to back off recruiting Nance to chase an unknown. Not sure if Mayer is necessarily better. Played on better teams (duh), but he scored less on way lower 2 point fg % and way lower 3 point fg %. He was primed for a big time season last year and didn't play particularly well. He's still a take on just about any team in the country. Both are still in the Draft as of now as well.
 
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theNewGuy

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It baffles me that some people on here don't want the best guys to come to ILL because it will make others want to leave...

The goal of every D1 team is to win a championship. The more talent you have, the better chance you have at doing that.
Worry about next season... next season!
Hawkins transfers, so be it. Harris transfers, so be it. We will fill there spots with better players or better recruits.

The benefit of being a better team and a consistently good team is that players will want to play for you.
If we have scholarships, we will fill them with great players.

And soon these kids will realize they may have to wait in the rafters a bit longer if they want to have a big roll on a top 10 team.
So instead of the team bringing in a senior transfer, they have their own developed guy to fill that spot.
These kids will realize sooner or later that the transfer portal is not all sunshine and rainbows. There are risks and rewards.
You want more playing time? you'll more than likely end up on a worse team with way less exposure.

Moral of the story: College Basketball should be taken one season at a time. Enjoy the ride.
 
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It baffles me that some people on here don't want the best guys to come to ILL because it will make others want to leave...

The goal of every D1 team is to win a championship. The more talent you have, the better chance you have at doing that.
Worry about next season... next season!
Hawkins transfers, so be it. Harris transfers, so be it. We will fill there spots with better players or better recruits.

The benefit of being a better team and a consistently good team is that players will want to play for you.
If we have scholarships, we will fill them with great players.

And soon these kids will realize they may have to wait in the rafters a bit longer if they want to have a big roll on a top 10 team.
So instead of the team bringing in a senior transfer, they have their own developed guy to fill that spot.
These kids will realize sooner or later that the transfer portal is not all sunshine and rainbows. There are risks and rewards.
You want more playing time? you'll more than likely end up on a worse team with way less exposure.

Moral of the story: College Basketball should be taken one season at a time. Enjoy the ride.
While I agree with this take in theory, I do have some issues with the idea of constantly losing the bottom 3-4 players on the roster in that it will never let a team "get old and stay old" as BU likes to say. Look at the rotations of the Final Four teams from this year based on who actually played when it mattered in the tournament:

Kansas: SR, JR, SR, SO, SR, JR, SR
UNC: JR, SO, SR, SO, SR, SO
Duke: FR, JR, SO, FR, SO, FR, SR
Villanova: SR, SR, SR, SR, JR, JR

Duke was the outlier, but their freshmen were ranked #2, 18 and 19 in RSCI so that level of talent can maybe be expected to make up for experience.

Maybe in the era of free transfers and NIL it's no longer realistic to end up with talented and experienced rosters, but I think in recent years that has been the key to most championship level teams.
 
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While I agree with this take in theory, I do have some issues with the idea of constantly losing the bottom 3-4 players on the roster in that it will never let a team "get old and stay old" as BU likes to say. Look at the rotations of the Final Four teams from this year based on who actually played when it mattered in the tournament:

Kansas: SR, JR, SR, SO, SR, JR, SR
UNC: JR, SO, SR, SO, SR, SO
Duke: FR, JR, SO, FR, SO, FR, SR
Villanova: SR, SR, SR, SR, JR, JR

Duke was the outlier, but their freshmen were ranked #2, 18 and 19 in RSCI so that level of talent can maybe be expected to make up for experience.

Maybe in the era of free transfers and NIL it's no longer realistic to end up with talented and experienced rosters, but I think in recent years that has been the key to most championship level teams.

You can still stay old. Before, you had to stay old by having balanced classes. Now you do it through the portal.
 
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You can still stay old. Before, you had to stay old by having balanced classes. Now you do it through the portal.
True, you just might take some losses early in the season as the team works out their identity, which isn't necessarily a bad thing as long as it all comes together later in the season.
 
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While I agree with this take in theory, I do have some issues with the idea of constantly losing the bottom 3-4 players on the roster in that it will never let a team "get old and stay old" as BU likes to say. Look at the rotations of the Final Four teams from this year based on who actually played when it mattered in the tournament:

Kansas: SR, JR, SR, SO, SR, JR, SR
UNC: JR, SO, SR, SO, SR, SO
Duke: FR, JR, SO, FR, SO, FR, SR
Villanova: SR, SR, SR, SR, JR, JR

Duke was the outlier, but their freshmen were ranked #2, 18 and 19 in RSCI so that level of talent can maybe be expected to make up for experience.

Maybe in the era of free transfers and NIL it's no longer realistic to end up with talented and experienced rosters, but I think in recent years that has been the key to most championship level teams.
Duke was the only team to not have at least one transfer playing significant minutes in the Final 4. UNC's Manek (love to hate that guy) was a transfer, Nova's sixth man was a transfer, and KU was led by a transfer.
 
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It's nice that Illinois basketball has finally reached the level of recruiting that we are having conversations about how we can get enough tick for talented players as opposed to figuring out how we can have serviceable players to give starters a rest, deal with injuries or have solid backups to players who get into foul trouble.
 
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It's nice that Illinois basketball has finally reached the level of recruiting that we are having conversations about how we can get enough tick for talented players as opposed to figuring out how we can have serviceable players to give starters a rest, deal with injuries or have solid backups to players who get into foul trouble.
No kidding. My dad and I were having a conversation about how impactful TSJ could be. Then we started talking about Clark. And he says, "And hell man, we already had a top notch recruiting class before we got those two!" It's a good day to bleed O&B.
 
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Duke was the only team to not have at least one transfer playing significant minutes in the Final 4. UNC's Manek (love to hate that guy) was a transfer, Nova's sixth man was a transfer, and KU was led by a transfer.
Not trying to pick nits, but are you calling Remy Martin Kansas' leader? He was their 6th man and I would consider Agbaji their leader, who was a four year starter (well, 3.5 year) for them. I think your overall point is still valid though.
 
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