Actually, the Sweet 16 bar that everyone seems to have declared the Holy Grail of a successful program is arbitrary and irrelevant. It's akin to saying we believe success is 4th place in the B1G. Championships and banners are the standards, IMHO. Making the tournament should be a given, although we certainly have extended stints where we didn't. The S16 is a stepping stone towards the goal of a championship only. We don't get participation credits, only credit when we win a championship. That doesn't imply that we should win the B1G or the natty every year, but that should be the bar. Nothing less.Not sure what point you guys are arguing here, but the bolded comment above is totally inaccurate.