Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

[Retro62]

Does anyone else smile have a side smile and happiness in the gut when they look at UK roster and only 7 scholarship players on roster. They got a "big commit" yesterday from the #187 recruit a 3 6'9" 190 pounder...the day of the burger boys may be getting away! 6'9" 190, he needs to eat a cheeseburger, or two!

Das ist schadenfreude...sehr gut!

 

[Flight33]

So, PM chasing hardware there makes no sense.

 

[altgeld88]

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Can you show me on the map where this Camapus is at ??.........................../s

Well done, Pru. Like a change-up from a Cy Young-winning fastball hurler. My swing was complete while the ball was still only halfway to the plate.

 

[altgeld88]

Das ist schadenfreude...sehr gut!

Ja. Viel mehr bitte.

 

[john1952]

While I agree we need someone to better pass the ball, I wonder to what degree those numbers are due to offensive style. A team like Purdue likely has a high number of assists because Edey needs to be passed the ball to score. How does the number of assists equate to victories?

Agreed, need additional metrics to furnish a complete picture
Seems we had a lot of "shoot first, pass second" players, some of whom were not outstanding shooters.

 

[urbanite]

Thanks - I'm not sure where to look for this, but it would be interesting to see those numbers adjusted for pace/tempo.

Assist percentage/rate is what you're looking for. Here's the B10 last year; numbers from Torvik:

Minnesota      63.1
Purdue         61.3
Rutgers        59.1
Iowa           57.5
Michigan St.   56.5
Northwestern   54.2
Indiana        53.6
Penn St.       51.9
Nebraska       51.0
Wisconsin      48.9
Illinois       46.7
Maryland       46.2
Michigan       46.1
Ohio St.       43.2

Also, the last 10 title winners for reference:

2023 Connecticut      63.2
2022 Kansas           53.6
2021 Baylor           55.3
2019 Virginia         55.9
2018 Villanova        53.7
2017 North Carolina   59.2
2016 Villanova        58.7
2015 Duke             53.5
2014 Connecticut      50.3
2013 Louisville       55.7

 

[NJJ871]

Das ist schadenfreude...sehr gut!

Any use of the greatest word of all time, shadenfreude, gets an automatic thumbs up from me.

 

[NEIlliniFan]

Please tell me UK boards are at a meltdown level that makes Loyalty look like Pippi Longstocking's tea party.

Ooooo! Extra points for working Pippi Longstocking into the Recruiting Thread!!

Well done

 

[ChiefIlliniwek05]

Can someone provide a recap regarding Mulcahy? Did we not show interest? Did he turn Illinois down?

 

[21ChampaignSt]

Assist percentage/rate is what you're looking for. Here's the B10 last year; numbers from Torvik:

Minnesota      63.1
Purdue         61.3
Rutgers        59.1
Iowa           57.5
Michigan St.   56.5
Northwestern   54.2
Indiana        53.6
Penn St.       51.9
Nebraska       51.0
Wisconsin      48.9
Illinois       46.7
Maryland       46.2
Michigan       46.1
Ohio St.       43.2

Also, the last 10 title winners for reference:

2023 Connecticut      63.2
2022 Kansas           53.6
2021 Baylor           55.3
2019 Virginia         55.9
2018 Villanova        53.7
2017 North Carolina   59.2
2016 Villanova        58.7
2015 Duke             53.5
2014 Connecticut      50.3
2013 Louisville       55.7

Wow, Minnesota was poised for a title run last year.

 

[ptgrd23]

For 3 years of Kofi our passing game was either dump it to him in low post or run Ayo/Kofi pick and roll.

It also created a lot of wide open 3 point looks and opponents collapsed of Kofi.

Lot of easy assists.

Last year was first post Kofi year and the offense really struggled to create open looks. Feeding Dain in low post was successful in non conference but opponents quickly realized that they could double Dain and Illinois did not have the shooters to punish them.

The only picks set were above the key. Very little motion or back cuts off the ball. When people did get open there was no inclination to pass the ball to them.

Not fun to watch us pass the ball around at top of key then launch a guarded 3 pointer.

I hope Brad learned his lesson and forces the team to run the offense even if it means playing only freshman and walkons.

 

[Illini90]

Can someone provide a recap regarding Mulcahy? Did we not show interest? Did he turn Illinois down?

His recruitment is being kept pretty close to the vest. Our insiders don’t even truly know what’s going on.

 

[Illinidrew]

I thought the insiders said the staff reached out and did not get a lot of interest so were moving on? Did that change?

 

[pruman91]

Can someone provide a recap regarding Mulcahy? Did we not show interest? Did he turn Illinois down?

The Illini were this close...........................my question is why would the Illini want my whiny cry baby arse ??

We didn't......................we really really didn't...........................right pru ??

No , my dear , we really really didn't.............................You look so fantastic in black , young lady ............You really really do........

Thanks pru...........coming from you that means the world to me .......it really really really does...................call me , pru..............

You bet , babe.........................

 

[altgeld88]

Wow, Minnesota was poised for a title run last year.

No one ever wanted to shoot. The were the dysfunctional version of Hoosiers: pass at least four times and then chuck it as the shot clock expired.

 

[CoachHooleyHoo]

His recruitment is being kept pretty close to the vest. Our insiders don’t even truly know what’s going on.

 

[ptgrd23]

Why you need a PG
1. bring the ball up against the press
--- minor issue last year, we have multiple players that can handle the ball reasonably well in open court. Sencire, Ty, TSJ, Coleman

2. call the play/trigger the offense
--- big issue last year. No reason why Coleman, Ty or TSJ can serve in this role

3. focus on creating shots for other players
---Nobody did this. Jayden was shoot first guard. Skyy did not appear to know how. Can Sencire learn? Are Nico or DGL options?

4. guard other team PG
--- Sencire can do this, Nico?, DGL?, Harmon?

 

[Emerson Bigguns]

Can someone provide a recap regarding Mulcahy? Did we not show interest? Did he turn Illinois down?

Most of us are running on the assumption he will not transfer to another B1G school.

If I were him, I probably wouldn’t either.

 

[mysterio2525]

Assist percentage/rate is what you're looking for. Here's the B10 last year; numbers from Torvik:

Minnesota      63.1
Purdue         61.3
Rutgers        59.1
Iowa           57.5
Michigan St.   56.5
Northwestern   54.2
Indiana        53.6
Penn St.       51.9
Nebraska       51.0
Wisconsin      48.9
Illinois       46.7
Maryland       46.2
Michigan       46.1
Ohio St.       43.2

Also, the last 10 title winners for reference:

2023 Connecticut      63.2
2022 Kansas           53.6
2021 Baylor           55.3
2019 Virginia         55.9
2018 Villanova        53.7
2017 North Carolina   59.2
2016 Villanova        58.7
2015 Duke             53.5
2014 Connecticut      50.3
2013 Louisville       55.7

Are we allowed just to eliminate UConn from all NCAA tourney metrics? They are so anomalous they break all the predictive metrics. Crazy

 

[Fighter of the Nightman]

Most of us are running on the assumption he will not transfer to another B1G school.

If I were him, I probably wouldn’t either.

Yeah, I'd love to have him (this team is quite seriously a serviceable PG away from taking a HUGE leap forward from last year if you ask me...), but he was pretty good at making enemies with opposing crowds, haha ... just imagine his return to the RAC. I think any school with a need would make it work and it would all be "fine," but I could see why the kid might want to check out another conference.

 

[RabidDawgClassic]

Are we allowed just to eliminate UConn from all NCAA tourney metrics? They are so anomalous they break all the predictive metrics. Crazy

Or, perhaps in this new Wild Wild West era of college basketball, it’s the predictive metrics that should be eliminated.

 

[aaeismacgychel]

Can someone provide a recap regarding Mulcahy? Did we not show interest? Did he turn Illinois down?

illini0440 stated Paul's primary drive is hardware and I believe a couple other insiders said there wasn't any interest in him coming here. While we didn't put on the full-court press to get him, it also likely wouldn't lead to anything. So we're looking at Reeves now and will just have Ty play the point according to Lville. So far Loyalty is, eh-ehm, skeptical. I think that summarizes it.

 

[Combo]

illini0440 stated Paul's primary drive is hardware and I believe a couple other insiders said there wasn't any interest in him coming here. While we didn't put on the full-court press to get him, it also likely wouldn't lead to anything. So we're looking at Reeves now and will just have Ty play the point according to Lville. So far Loyalty is, eh-ehm, skeptical. I think that summarizes it.

I thought Lville said (if Williams not available), it would be PG by committee w a few guys sharing time there. Correct me if I’m wrong.

 

[Bigtex]

I thought Lville said (if Williams not available), it would be PG by committee w a few guys sharing time there. Correct me if I’m wrong.

I also read/heard PG by committee if Williams is not available.

 

[Emerson Bigguns]

Or, perhaps in this new Wild Wild West era of college basketball, it’s the predictive metrics that should be eliminated.

Predictive metrics regarding a single elimination tournament, are problematic in any era.