The Galloping Ghost
- Washington, DC
I'm not calculating this myself. It's a stat from the Big Ten Network. Peep the video at the 1:13 mark.
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I don't think it's quite so black and white.
On one hand, the TF/DMW teams were pretty stable in terms of returning minutes. As is this year's team.
On the other hand, I think we're in like the bottom quarter of the B1G in terms of transfers out (I did the math at one point but can't find the actual stats. Someone can keep me honest if they have time.) There's also the bit about Coleman being the first BU recruit to (presumably) play out his full eligibility for BU.
You can frame it however you want. I do find myself wishing we could keep some of our players around a little longer. But I also won't fault Brad for sticking to his principles.
Agreed that this is almost certainly true as well!
Homecoming 2019
- Chicago
Kofi played 4 years and left for pro ball, feels unfair not to include him. Ayo played 3 and left for pro ball. Trent and DMFW weren't recruited by Brad, but were retained by him for 5 years. Only two people leaving that have stung are Podz and Ace, one had an incredible year that no one saw coming, and the other has had a very rough career riddled with injuries. I'm not sure who else has transfered out that you could be disappointed about? The portal has been a net positive for us in my opinion.
The Galloping Ghost
- Washington, DC
If you could have anybody back from last year's team, who would it be? The correct answer is TSJ. He also seemed by far the most likely to leave. Going into last season, nobody thought TSJ would be here for two seasons. After the season, it still seemed incredibly likely that he was gone. Yet, Brad managed to keep him. He did the same thing with Ayo and Kofi for their junior years. Two guys that "played their full eligibility" stat won't catch, but again, players that Brad managed to get extra years out of.
Yeah, you can definitely frame it however you want, I guess. I see Brad managing to keep stars for an extra year. I also see him letting several guys walk that straight-up quit on their team. Then there are a few you would have wanted to stay, but things just didn't quite work. Every single team in the NCAA is dealing with this. If I had to choose, give me the guy who gets the extra year out of his stars when nobody believes he can. I cannot wait to see what Terrence does this year. He has All-American written all over him.
I wish Kofi was here 4 years.
Ace, Griffin, Jones, I'll throw Giorgi in too. All would've been nice pieces, perhaps even THE piece needed to get over that elusive second weekend hump.
Jury is still out on Epps and Skyy. But I think Epps will sting.
I actually don't blame the staff for Podz.
And yeah, word on the street is most/all of those kids had some kind of attitude problem, but 18, 19, 20 year olds do tend to be a bit immature. You'd like to have a staff who can manage personalities and help them grow up.
Look, I've been consistently supportive of BU. If you want to bore yourself, read through my posts. As recently as mid to late March, after we were bounced from the tournament, I still predicted he'd get us to a Final Four. A few years ago I told my 70 something year old grandpa that he was about to see the best stretch of Illinois basketball of his lifetime under BU's leadership. And today is more proof of that with our 4th consecutive pre-season AP rankings. Just saying there is a bit of a pattern of him butting heads irreconciably with young, talented, temperamental players. I think it would behoove him and the program to figure out how to retain them a little better.
Big Jack
- Decatur
Actually Kofi was only here 3_years
Homecoming 2019
- Chicago
This is correct, I thought he had 1 year of elgibility left when he departed, but it was probably 2 with the extra covid year.
Homecoming 2019
- Chicago
Epps had no future with this team after last season, Tevian wasn't good enough, and Griffin stomped a dude (maybe Brad wanted to keep him?). These guys needed to go. I'm not talking about guys who could possibly be good ball players after they leave, we've only lost 2 guys we really wanted to keep, I'm not letting you count Giorgi either!
What’s the consensus? Would he have made more money staying? Did he make the right decision?
I agree our player retention could be better. But just for reference i started looking at KU’s roster to see how we match up, and last year KU brought in a 4 man class. Grady Dick is now in the NBA and the remaining 3 all transferred. And Bill S. brought in 2 5th years and a 4th year as transfers. New era for sure.
P.S., I think we match up pretty well!
P.S., I think we match up pretty well!
Certainly would have made more money playing here but I can’t imagine he’s devastated about making half a million while living in Japan.
The Galloping Ghost
- Washington, DC
That's the thing here. For all the complaining about player retention, what program is navigating it flawlessly? I'm genuinely asking. Hall-of-fame level coaches are struggling to keep athletes. Here's a fun stat: over 20% of D1 scholarship basketball players entered the transfer portal this past year. Again, every single team in the country is dealing with this.
1 wild stat shows just how active the college basketball transfer portal has been this offseason
We’re seeing unprecedented levels of movement in college basketball this offseason.
ftw.usatoday.com
Edit: And just gonna throw this list of every single player that transferred, including walk-ons.
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Homecoming 2019
- Chicago
Izzo is doing pretty well, but he hasn't really taken advantage of the portal as much as others either.That's the thing here. For all the complaining about player retention, what program is navigating it flawlessly? I'm genuinely asking. Hall-of-fame level coaches are struggling to keep athletes. Here's a fun stat: over 20% of D1 scholarship basketball players entered the transfer portal this past year. Again, every single team in the country is dealing with this.
1 wild stat shows just how active the college basketball transfer portal has been this offseason
We’re seeing unprecedented levels of movement in college basketball this offseason.
Edit: And just gonna throw this list of every single player that transferred, including walk-ons.
The Galloping Ghost
- Washington, DC
And I'd take our results over theirs over the past four years. Player retention, but just straight-up worse doesn't seem like it's navigating the transfer portal era of college basketball flawlessly to me.
As of today, we lead in this one ... Xavier, IU, Purdue, and MSU will be the other schools to beat ...
Homecoming 2019
- Chicago
Also true, really is hard to find a coach who keeps all of their players, I guess a good question is do they always want to keep all of their players or would they rather have some transfers to make bigger splashes in the portal.
He ain't done yet ...
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Nearly impossible ...
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