Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread
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Yeah I mean not sure how they came up with that number. Unless sports reference is wrong that percentage is incorrect.
Big Jack
- Decatur
One slight correction to you post... Tevian was definitely good enough to have started at UofI.. He was talented but alas his off court antics and weed problem was the end of him here.. I still am not sure the Griffin situation, seems almost like an Ace situation and Momma wanted him at Cuse.. Think BU loved his nasty side.
How much NIL does Indiana have?!He ain't done yet ...
Boogie Fland, Archbishop Stepinac , Combo Guard
Johnuel Fland is a 6-2, 170-pound combo guard from White Plains, NY.247sports.com
It's been a bunch of years, I feel like someone can finally spill the tea on THT.
Top 3 in the country
Would be interested in hearing the whole story but would be even more interested in hearing why Dee Brown isn’t welcome back. Hard to imagine in our society today and some of the second chances given to individuals that his error, whatever it was, can’t be forgiven.
Search for Indy’s post on Oct. 5th he gives ya pretty much what happens
Dee couldn’t keep it in his pants. On more than one occasion.
drsmitty74
- Rochester
Chin blabbed $$$ numbers he should not have.
I need a 30 for 30 on this! Sounds like this could be very interesting!! lol.
There's this guy named Mark Cuban.....
Since he's been here, Brad's done a great job at retaining talent that could go pro, that's for sure. Getting extra years out of Ayo, Kofi, Trent, Cohawk, and TSJ is huge. No doubt about that. In fact, if you want anyone back you want your pro level players.
That said, the question is what comes next? Personally, I think it's too early to say how effective Brad has been in the transfer portal era, but I believe we'll find out by year's end. Brad has largely succeeded at portalling in bringing in high end talent, but I think the results have been a mixed bag, and I'm hedging towards this approach being unsustainable long term as you're reliant on winning auctions by necessity that we might be getting priced out of. And it does seem to have a negative impact on development and retention of young talent.
Now sure, one can argue that recruiting, developing, and retaining young talent is no longer important in this day and age as they will just leave anyways, but our attrition has certainly been real and if you look ahead to next year's roster, we will certainly need to rely on the portal heavily if we suffer similar attrition of young talent.
Let's also look around the B10, just to see how Brad has compared to others in the past three years of this new portal era:
Retention of 4+star recruits vs. Transfer out over past 3 recruiting classes:
Illinois: 2 of 8 (25%)
Indiana: 6 of 10 (60%)
Purdue: 5 of 5 (100%)
MSU: 6 of 7 (86%)
Wisconsin: 2 of 3 (67%)
Maryland: 1 of 3 (33%)
Iowa: No 4+ star recruits
Michigan: 7 of 12 (58%)
OSU: 5 of 7 (71%)
Rutgers: 1 of 1 (100%)
Now again, it can certainly be argued that high school recruits no longer matter, but to say every team is seeing the same attrition of 4+ star recruits is not exactly true. In fact every B10 team of importance has better than 50% retention rate of young talent aside from Maryland which has small sample size. Our retention of talented recruits over the past 3 years is way below the B10 norm and while we can say that's Brad's strategy, I'm not quite buying it. But by the end of this year, we'll know for sure, both whether our young talent stays and whether we have a successful portalling.
Brad has done a lot extremely well recruitingwise but I just don't see retention of young talent over these past 3 years as one of them. You're free to think differently of course.
band camp
- STL City
Don't we have internet dude money? PayPal or ???
Can’t let this stand!! I have to work with an insufferable IU grad. Can’t let her have all this good news to gloat over…..Need to keep pace…LOLHe ain't done yet ...
Boogie Fland, Archbishop Stepinac , Combo Guard
Johnuel Fland is a 6-2, 170-pound combo guard from White Plains, NY.
I also never really realized that Dee wasn't welcomed back...
foby
- Bonnaroo Land
Are there any other kind?
Dee was in my class (shout out '06). VERY social dude. Always out in public, always smiling. Said hello to everybody - magnetic personality. Also a legit 6'0", despite the common and falsely perpetuated narrative, lol.
Just stating a fact, apropos of nothing mentioned prior in this thread or post: People in positions of authority (coach, teacher, manager, etc) absolutely cannot (per circumstantial state law and/or particular code of conduct) pursue relationships (take that in any sense you want) with persons over whom they have perceived influence with regards to grades, playing time, professional advancement, et al.
I appreciate the response! However, now you've made me lean even further towards this whole 30 for 30 idea! I'll even take and ESPN Short or E60! lol
3 point girl
- texas
Dee is just a great guy & loves this school. I would definitely welcome him back as there is not a better ambassador for the O&B anywhere. He will be a D1 coach in the near future (if he wants it). He is very happy at Roosevelt for now.
That's the thing here. For all the complaining about player retention, what program is navigating it flawlessly? I'm genuinely asking. Hall-of-fame level coaches are struggling to keep athletes. Here's a fun stat: over 20% of D1 scholarship basketball players entered the transfer portal this past year. Again, every single team in the country is dealing with this.
1 wild stat shows just how active the college basketball transfer portal has been this offseason
We’re seeing unprecedented levels of movement in college basketball this offseason.ftw.usatoday.com
Edit: And just gonna throw this list of every single player that transferred, including walk-ons.
Thanks for sharing. I think it's much better to look at comparable programs. Just scanning the BIG and counting the total number of schollie players transferring by team (avg right at 3)
4 Illinois
3 Indiana
2 Iowa
5 Maryland
3 Michigan (Dickerson makes this way worse than 3)
1 MSU
4 Minney
4 NEB
2 NW
3 tOSU
4 PSU
1 Purdue
5 Rutgers
1 Wiscy
Good point! That was redundant of me!
I'll just add that Dee Brown and his wife attended a charitable event pro bono last weekend where he helped a charity raise $250K+ for victims of domestic violence. Was very fun hanging out with them even if it meant missing the end of the Maryland football game.
I wanted to point out that he does good in the community of his own volition without publicizing it in the present to counteract negative posts above about things that happened nearly 10 years ago.
I wanted to point out that he does good in the community of his own volition without publicizing it in the present to counteract negative posts above about things that happened nearly 10 years ago.
Dee will always be one of my favorite Illini! He just seemed to always ooze love and pride for the beloved! His on court persona and gregarious personality made him easy to love! Hate to hear about (a bunch of) poor choices that have definitely harmed his post-playing days career.
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