I agree especially after BU started him a couple of games before he got sick. I definitely don't understand that.
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Sorry Kat, I didn't mean to be offensive. I had Googled both players and the stats I saw were pretty poor, so I assumed I must be looking at things wrong..There are stats listed in the videos for specific games, but you just made a super general request. Plus, if you don't want to dig you can search the forum or just Google the information you want.
Dame Sarr Stats
For those who think it's easier to annoy you than to Google 'Dame sarr stats ' themselves.letmegooglethat.com
Luigi Suigo Stats
For those who think it's easier to annoy you than to Google 'Luigi suigo stats' themselves.
Possible backup big (would be a really good one)
Dra brings it every night. We need that toughness on the court
DGL is a minimum 20+ min/game guy on our team (assuming competent coaching). I love what BU has done for our program since he got here. I think it's time to give him a huge pat on the back and thank him for the fantastic work he has done and move forward with getting our next HC that can bring us to the next level. Sorry - wrong thread and all that.
I literally only want him if he is truly a backup. If he is someone that would push Morez or Tomi out the door, I'd say Hell no, full stop
After this year, no more pouring everything into youth. In a day and age where guys aren't staying four years(or even two years), just as well pick off another teams quality transfer that they've already developed.
If they can't legally drink, aren't proven knockdown shooters at the high D1 level, aren't 6'8" or above with toughness or aren't currently on our roster....pass.
Take one, MAYBE two prep players, then go back to being tough, physical and old again. This year....too much.
If they can't legally drink, aren't proven knockdown shooters at the high D1 level, aren't 6'8" or above with toughness or aren't currently on our roster....pass.
Take one, MAYBE two prep players, then go back to being tough, physical and old again. This year....too much.
you bet. Another headache though for play by play guys.
Yes, agreed. Nothing against KJ and Will - they are good now and hope they have amazing NBA careers, but I think sticking to just 1 freshman that’s a one-and-done in a given year would be my preference going forward. (Not that that’s worth anything, but…)
To play devil's advocate, which is more the problem with this year's team? 1st yr players (KJ, WR, Tomi. Rez)? Or upperclassmen transfers (KB. BH, Tre)?
should of had this mentality with shannon and domask. I think will and KJ will have long NBA careers but its just too inconsistent. Brad last yr would talk about how the team was so old and they got to get old just to get super young.
That’s easy…
it's not the Fr
That's true, but I also think it's asking A LOT for a freshman, even a supremely talented and tough one, to be THE GUY on a theoretically title-contending team.
And my current theory is that Brad just does a little better with a more top-heavy team, talent wise, since he seems to usually start to limit rotations as the year goes.
And he especially does better with a proven alpha on the team that can get buckets when the offense bogs down or gets cold. And I just think that having a freshman be that guy as plan A is not what I'm hoping to see in the future.
then don't run off half your team and do a complete overhaul to your roster. Underwood has no one to blame but himself.
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I'm not saying the problem is the freshman and part of the issue with evaluating this at observers is we don't really how much guys cost or what the alternative is.
But the idea behind getting older is more about intangibles than criticizing what Riley or KJ are doing.
Maybe with a vet leader in Riley's spot they are able to shutdown the White/Brad feud before it gets to this point. Maybe that leader can identify the team is settling for too many poor looks from 3 and takes control by getting to the basket and creating open looks at the basket for his teammates.
Obviously that type of leadership isn't really quantifiable but Brad wasn't wrong when he said the biggest advantage is to get old and stay old.
Now obviously, Shannon was the best player in the country and Domask was special but how many times did we watch those guys simply take over and assert their will in crucial moments last year. Once again not criticizing Riley or KJ but haven't really seen a consistent ability for either to do that.
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Upperclassmen, without any doubt. First-year guys are absolutely carrying this team.
this is what he preached all year last year and then went out for the 2 one and done kids. its puzzling. there a young team other then ben who stinks and doesn't seem like a leader type anyway. When getting old you got to get the right guys to. I go back to brad saying he wants "WINNERS" in the portal. Ben won 7 games in the OVC and tre white won 3.
harmon and quincy fit like a glove and knew there roles and played within the offense. Insiders on the board said white couldnt figure out his role and ben certainly hasnt cause he thinks he should shoot 10 3s a game.
Yeah, I get it, I'm just not sure the x-factor is age in and of itself. I think it's more about retention. I think a returning sophomore may provide more of those intangibles and leadership than a brand new 5th year senior. Matthew Mayer, for example, just never really bought into the culture and so didn't provide that. This year's Indiana team transfered in a bunch of upperclassmen and it's an absolute mess. I think they key is some base level of retention, I'd say at least 5 guys, and then transfer in the most talented pieces around that, be they seniors, freshmen, or anything in between.
gotta find the right guys like domask and guys that lead by example. The way I see it is that you have to have some sort of buy in or some sort of player led lockerroom. All we have seen from clips this year is DGL being that guy... whos fell out of the rotation.
Looks like a KJ clone in this tape. Kind of guy Brad needs, that can get downhill and make something out of nothing.
Do the coaches design plays and defenses? Do they so coach up the players, develop them? Do they work on fundamentals? Or is practice a shoot around and at game time there is no plan offensively or defensively? After watching kj this season I would be concerned about sending any players to coach Underwood.
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