Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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This is what happens when you play Ben Humrichous over a talent that is going to be All-Conference Floor/All-American ceiling good by the time his college career is over.

This is avoided if he plays as much as he deserved from Day 1, not halfway thru the year.

In this day and age, it's all about managing the egos of players, and FAR more importantly, their respective inner circles.

Hate to be blunt, but this was 100% avoidable. And our staff continues to fumble these situations. Mind-boggling and beyond frustrating.
Do you think it’s harder for a person with a huge ego to manage others that have an ego? Just something I’ve wondered.
 
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I am sure DGL was promised a deal
I am sure humrichous was promised a deal
Should we continue

Remind me how many players who started and end their basketball career at Illinois with underwood as coach?
EDGs need a coach who wants EDGs
 
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This not the NCAA’s fault. A bunch of random judges have nibbled away at the NCAA’s ability to have rules about eligibility of student athletes.
It is the NCAA’s fault for having arcane rules that the courts reasonably ruled were unfair restraint of trade. They’re compounding the issue by ignoring the core problem which is the inability to have formal contracts simply to maintain the student-athletes’ non-employee status.
 
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Seasons over: Ben Humrichouse cant hurt you anymore, the nightmare is over.

Transfer portal opens: it's a nightmare inside of a nightmare, Ben can hurt you anytime anywhere.
 
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I hate to bring his name up again, but...Podz 2.0. Not related to playing time but results with another team 😭
 
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Not sure if this is accurate or not but it would make sense.


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If Brad Underwood plays Morez as much as he should have played, none of this happens. Period. That is on the coaching and staff. Anyone else arguing otherwise needs to wake up.

Why should players show loyalty when coaches and programs don't, especially a program who has shown they will never hesitate to replace incumbents if they think they can "upgrade". Future promises be damned-those are just words. What would inhibit Brad from treating Morez's playing time the exact same way in '25/'26 as he did this szn?

Morez was insulted by Ben playing over him. That (plus the bag he is about to get) is ultimately what drove him away. And I don't fault him 0%, as much as it sucks and as awesome as I know he is going to be at his next stop.

Who's got the Tylenol?
I have been fully on board that Morez leaving is the coaches fault but this is some bs. I love Morez and think he can be great but who gives af if Ben started to begin the year? Transferring because of something like that is soft as hell. Morez turned it on late but starting him from day one would not happen on most good teams. He can’t shoot and is an undersized 5 who was very foul prone. Slow rolling him was a smart move and would have happened on any competent team
 
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Bret doesn't lose players to other schools when they throw triple the NIL at them because he knows how to cultivate relationships with his players and staff. Brad, not so much.
Ding ding ding. I think this is the winner.

Brad is old school, kind of a hard !!!, and I don't think he endears himself well to his players. In his defense, I don't think he sees that as his role. I think that speaks to the NIL world leaving him behind a little bit.

To those downplaying the impact that playing Ben over Morez had, I really want some of what you're smoking. That was bar none one of the dumbest things I've ever seen at IL. He finally figured it out and then started Will but good gawd man, what are you watching? If you are basing the decision on some analytics that somehow say Ben should get those minutes, I'd throw your entire data collection system in the nearest pond. Morez could see it, fans could see it, and Brad just continued trotting Ben out there. Unfathomable.
 
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This is just blatantly incorrect tho. Tomi was the #1 priority, Boswell #2. You can argue between White/Morez for 3. Without Boswell, we have 0 guards who can handle the ball. Without Ivisic, we have no bigs we can rely on to shoot the 3. Morez was always a luxury
I didn't want this but players turn pro, leave, graduate, and transfer and each of them can be replaced. There are other very good or even better players out there. I didn't want Rez to leave but there are more options in the pool and there may or may not be a Derick Queen but there could be some as good or better than Rez. I didn't want him to go but we have had All Americans and lottery picks and we will again. Maybe even next season . There are a lot of capable player out there BU just needs to find them again.
Boz, Tomi, Trey, are three good starters and a huge iffy maybe Will with the $$ available we should be able to find at least another player. Or two. Who heard of Tomi or KJ thus time last year?
 
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Even though your question is likely rhetorical, I can explain: Kids at Purdue seem to genuinely like playing for Matt Painter. It sure isn't because they have a "Bigger NIL Bag" than we do.
And we don’t know yet what the trio of Smith, Loyer and Kauffman-Renn will do if/when they’re eliminated from the tournament. Surely there will be programs dangling big bags for those guys, especially Smithband TKR. And Purdue hasn’t been known for its willingness to play the portal game at full speed.
 
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Oh, if we have near 100% roster turnover again, that's a massive, massive red flag. For a team that is allegedly top 10ish in its NIL cap and has had a really nice run of success to have wholesale turnover year in and year out, that is an obvious sign of organizational dysfunction.

To be clear, in this ear, I expect some turnover. Even 50% turnover. But 100% when you are allegedly one of the destination programs, not a feeder program... unbelievable and unhealthy.
If we have even 90% roster turnover from a team that could return everyone…..idk man. I may be done for a few years
 
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In many of Johnson's games, especially the first half of.the season, his minutes were limited as much by foul trouble as anything else. Then he got hurt, and his minutes.were limited by that.
That’s a Big Ten officials issue as well. They always pick on Freshmen and always have. Do they think they are teaching them something? The Freshman quick whistle is like getting hazed in the Big 10/18. Also see KJ in the MSU game.
 
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That's literally a market price. It's what the market will bear.
to be fair , it’s not that simple

if a classic car is worth 50,000 , and that has been established for years via numerous auctions , the fact some one off sale for 100,000 occurs , doesn’t change the market price by itself . now if it occurs a few times hence , maybe

a true market price really needs to be sustainable

see Hunt Brothers Silver Runup , 1980
or movie “ trading places “ about orange juice
 
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