Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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I'm trying to think of an offer that could be made to Riley that would be a reasonable thing for him to take and give up a 20-25 draft spot.

$2.5 million? Do we have that?
 
#78      
So our best chance is just a bad combine, which may be possible since I do think Riley's basketball talents are subtle and might not pop off the court in a combine setting.
 
#79      
I'm trying to think of an offer that could be made to Riley that would be a reasonable thing for him to take and give up a 20-25 draft spot.

$2.5 million? Do we have that?
For a high profile player coming back like that - they go to donors specifically to fund that player and can usually find the money- it doesn’t come out of the budget they are planning for
 
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So I have a question for those more in the know than me on the NBA vs. college decision. Assume the money is the same. I’m wondering what is better from a developmental perspective. In the NBA, obviously no classes and there are no caps on the amount of work you can do. But it’s also my understanding that the NBA schedule is so condensed that teams just don’t practice all that much. So I think that mainly leaves one on one skill work for those so inclined. And obviously college comes with classes and restrictions on activity, but college teams typically practice a fair bit relative to game time.

So I guess which is better from a developmental perspective, the opportunity of unlimited skill work or the team practices?

I know there are other factors too…you want to get to your second contract as soon as possible and obviously in the NBA you are playing against way better players, which would push towards going. But I could see an argument that the structure of college is better suited for development. But I don’t know.
 
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So I have a question for those more in the know than me on the NBA vs. college decision. Assume the money is the same. I’m wondering what is better from a developmental perspective. In the NBA, obviously no classes and there are no caps on the amount of work you can do. But it’s also my understanding that the NBA schedule is so condensed that teams just don’t practice all that much. So I think that mainly leaves one on one skill work for those so inclined. And obviously college comes with classes and restrictions on activity, but college teams typically practice a fair bit relative to game time.

So I guess which is better from a developmental perspective, the opportunity of unlimited skill work or the team practices?

I know there are other factors too…you want to get to your second contract as soon as possible and obviously in the NBA you are playing against way better players, which would push towards going. But I could see an argument that the structure of college is better suited for development. But I don’t know.
I'm no expert but someone like Will who still needs to fill out would certainly get a full season of G league action anyway.
 
#85      
I'm trying to think of an offer that could be made to Riley that would be a reasonable thing for him to take and give up a 20-25 draft spot.

$2.5 million? Do we have that?
That is it IMHO....if it raises Will to top 10 draft the following year. Will doesn't need to be in the league next year, he is a young man/teenager in a 6-8 frame.
 
#86      
The developmental portion of the NBA would be playing in the G League. That's the purpose of it. You're getting paid your rookie contract, but you're in the NBA's version of triple A. In the case of Will and KJ.... they'd more than likely not see PT with the "big team". Heck, TJ was putting 30+ up in multiple games in the G League and it STILL took time to bring him up.

There isn't one person in this board(or anywhere) who thinks KJ is ready for the NBA, yet he's considered a lottery pick. He's ticketed for the G League for at least one year. These teams are no longer drafting for immediate need(unless you're in the top 5). They're drafting based on potential, with the knowledge that they have a great vehicle for development.
 
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I don’t think 4 million but for sure it would take close to 3 million I would guess, his mom really helping us, and him falling to at least say 25?

It sure looks like he enjoyed playing here?
 
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Having gotten to watch some now...

Mirkovic is really skilled. And it's about all levels, good on the block, good footwork...can take you out to 15 feet to hit a jumper and has range to the 3 point line.

He reminds me of Domantas Sabonis... not nimble of foot, but he can get you in other ways.

He will not be great on defense and I would even question the fit with the Twins but I see why the staff might love the offensive upside.
 
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Having gotten to watch some now...

Mirkovic is really skilled. And it's about all levels, good on the block, good footwork...can take you out to 15 feet to hit a jumper and has range to the 3 point line.

He reminds me of Domantas Sabonis... not nimble of foot, but he can get you in other ways.

He will not be great on defense and I would even question the fit with the Twins but I see why the staff might love the offensive upside.
I still think the best comp is Domask, only taller
 
#92      
I'm trying to think of an offer that could be made to Riley that would be a reasonable thing for him to take and give up a 20-25 draft spot.

$2.5 million? Do we have that?
Think years and risk, too. The NBA gets him to his goal and multiple years. Staying here may give him a big check, but doesn't guarantee multiple years and carries risk of injury that hurts his draft stock.

If he grades as a first round pick, he'd be a fool to come back.

In my opinion.
 
#93      
BUT he WAS 17 at one point!
I Dont Believe You Will Ferrell GIF
 
#94      
Having gotten to watch some now...

Mirkovic is really skilled. And it's about all levels, good on the block, good footwork...can take you out to 15 feet to hit a jumper and has range to the 3 point line.

He reminds me of Domantas Sabonis... not nimble of foot, but he can get you in other ways.

He will not be great on defense and I would even question the fit with the Twins but I see why the staff might love the offensive upside.
On defense at 250lbs and a frame at 19 that should get stronger then he may be ok on defense in certain roles. In the video he had a big trying to bang him down and he wasn't moved. An off season with Fletch he could even get stronger defending in the post. That's something we have lacked the past two seasons vs Maryland or the other bangers in the B10.
 
#95      
Think years and risk, too. The NBA gets him to his goal and multiple years. Staying here may give him a big check, but doesn't guarantee multiple years and carries risk of injury that hurts his draft stock.

If he grades as a first round pick, he'd be a fool to come back.

In my opinion.
I tend to agree. If you're guaranteed to be a 1st round pick, it's better to go. If there is a legitimate risk of falling to the 2nd round, stay in college.
 
#96      
Think years and risk, too. The NBA gets him to his goal and multiple years. Staying here may give him a big check, but doesn't guarantee multiple years and carries risk of injury that hurts his draft stock.

If he grades as a first round pick, he'd be a fool to come back.

In my opinion.
Guaranteed you'd get around 4.5 million though as a 20-25th pick though, right? NBA has options for year 3 an 4. I think there's certainly a number where you have guaranteed in 1 year that mitigates your risk. Might be marginally more likely to have a career altering injury in the G league than in college as well.
 
#97      
This sounds right? ~2.25/yr. So insurance would have to be a part of this? I am guessing we see this more and more at the bottom of the 1st round. Probably not even an issue for WR as he is maybe even top 20 now?
 
#98      
Having gotten to watch some now...

Mirkovic is really skilled. And it's about all levels, good on the block, good footwork...can take you out to 15 feet to hit a jumper and has range to the 3 point line.

He reminds me of Domantas Sabonis... not nimble of foot, but he can get you in other ways.

He will not be great on defense and I would even question the fit with the Twins but I see why the staff might love the offensive upside.
I think he’s a better fit with the twins than Morez would have been. I don’t see Big Z, Tomi and Mirkovic all playing together much if at all, but the versatility of their games would seem to allow it when wanted.
 
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