Read on Twitter that they’re doing a zoom with him
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Man, don't start this again. That dead horse was beaten to a pulp. Let's focus on what the roster looks like and if it can be diverse enough to alter schematics on both ends of the floor.
It's recruiting, recruiting, recruiting right now. If we don't do well here, the coaching carousel thread just as well be deleted....unless the focus is staff accountability with roster construction.
It's recruiting, recruiting, recruiting right now. If we don't do well here, the coaching carousel thread just as well be deleted....unless the focus is staff accountability with roster construction.
sacraig
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It's currently April 8th.
Well, if Carey Booth went to Colorado State in part to be close to his dad, his dad just got fired.
Booth’s Dad got fired from the Nuggets. Obviously unexpected considering Carey picked Colorado St. will be interesting to see if he hops back in the portal.
I mean, this is traditionally the time of year in which we complain about our roster not being good enough. As opposed to September, when traditionally we loudly proclaim that we have a top-10, FF contending roster.
Which also brings up the point....if Mirk is as advertised offensively and is a liability defensively, then Z might be a better fit alongside him instead of Tomi.
ptgrd23
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- I think Ben would shoot better next year for Illinois if he stayed. The game appeared to be slowing down for him 2nd half of B10 season. His defense, rebounding, and hustle for loose balls really improved. Brad also stopped trying to have him guard All American power forwards. However I think a stronger Jake Davis can play the same role - more athletic and quicker release. with Mirkovic, the twin Ivicics and Jake I think Ben becomes a luxury. If he wants to stay for low $NIL I would keep him for continuity and hope he can shoot 40% from 3.
Two first rounders committed last year in May. Our best player since Ayo (TSJ) committed 04/29.
I wrote you a poem to help remember:
If the month has a four, wait some more.
If our team looks bad in May then now it's your day.
Either way silence will be divine, because no one wants to hear you whine.
I wrote you a poem to help remember:
If the month has a four, wait some more.
If our team looks bad in May then now it's your day.
Either way silence will be divine, because no one wants to hear you whine.
We obviously aren't building this roster to be able to play man to man defense.
I'm hearing from sources I can't reveal, that Bu is talking to this guy. /s
He might be looking to supplement his SSA checks...... Hearing also he knows a little about the zone?
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Reading a lot of opinions and concerns about Mirkovic and "athleticism". Some people have mentioned his fallaway shots. Got me thinking about Marcus Domask. Where was he on your athleticism scale? I hope we all agree that Marcus was a vital cog on that very successful team last year.
I keep seeing folks use Jokic or Doncic as a comparative. This feels like the old "athletic Larry Bird" stuff to me. It is beyond unlikely this guy is somehow one of the top 5-10 players in the world.
I can get more comfortable with a Damask comp, though I don't know how far in the tourney we get with that. But it seems silly to compare 2 all time great players who are unathletic for the NBA with a guy who looks much less athletic than his Euro League.
The blueprint for success is out there. UConn the previous 2 years, Houston, Auburn, Alabama, Florida this year. You don't have to have top level freshman to win. In fact, you most likely aren't winning with them as the key pieces. Duke was the exception this year with a generational freshman in Flagg. You build a roster with athletic guys from mid-majors that have had some success and are tough and will be with you for at least a few years. Florida and Houston last night had athletes all over the place.
The difference in talent between those teams and Illinois this year and what appears to be shaping up for next year is pretty glaring. I would argue Brad is putting together an incredibly unathletic roster so far. If we want to basically just be satisfied with being near the top of the B1G and making the tournament, then I guess it's fine. I have bigger hopes for the Illini. Like what Oats has done with my other team (Bama). Many athletes and lots of experience. Clearly did not help against Duke this year but Oats has led Bama to the sweet sixteen 4 of the last 5 years and has been in the final four and the elite 8 the last 2 years. He did it by taking mid major guys and having them stick around and supplement with highly skilled and athletic freshman.
The difference in talent between those teams and Illinois this year and what appears to be shaping up for next year is pretty glaring. I would argue Brad is putting together an incredibly unathletic roster so far. If we want to basically just be satisfied with being near the top of the B1G and making the tournament, then I guess it's fine. I have bigger hopes for the Illini. Like what Oats has done with my other team (Bama). Many athletes and lots of experience. Clearly did not help against Duke this year but Oats has led Bama to the sweet sixteen 4 of the last 5 years and has been in the final four and the elite 8 the last 2 years. He did it by taking mid major guys and having them stick around and supplement with highly skilled and athletic freshman.
skyIdub
"I can't tell you. Secret."
Nobody is comparing him to Jokic after his development into an NBA star. It was referenced with what scouts initially saw in Jokic.
The comparisons to them are potential, not finished product.
Tomi was a Soph this year will be a Junior alongside his brother
I don’t know. I’m pretty confident he’s a combo of Jokic, Doncic, Larry Bird and Marcus Domask’s greatest qualities. We are landing him because we have better scouts than the NBA. /s
How about if we are the opposite and have only one athlete instead of one Domask type?
Joel Goodson
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Damask is fine, but if you have kids, far better to stick with vinyl
No one is projecting him to be as good as those players. But if players with limited athleticism (according to how Americans think of that term) can be all time NBA greats, then another player with limited athleticism can be a good college player.
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Based on the comments I've seen here today I don't think I can evaluate this guy fully until I see his 40 time and get a vertical....
Malik Moore, a 6'5" 190-pound Junior Guard from Montana, looks like he'd be a nice pickup for the Illini. He's long and lanky; I like that, as long as he's athletic enough to keep up with smaller/quicker guards on defense. (Anyone know about his defense?) Moore averaged 12.6 points, 3.2 rebounds, and 2.4 assists for Montana this past season. He shot 45.6% on FGs, including 40.9% on 3-pointers, and 82.2% on FTs. That's a very good percentage on 3s, albeit vs. less than Big Ten level defenses.
I just don't understand how much better he might be than 6'6" 200-pound Sophomore Guard Sam Lewis from Toledo, via Simeon High School. (He just recently transferred to Virginia.) Lewis averaged 16.2 points/4.7 rebounds/1.2 assists this past season, while shooting 47.0% on FGs, including 44.4% on 3-pointers, and 76.6% on FTs. I liked that Lewis is only a sophomore, that he's an Illinois/Chicago kid, and that his numbers are as good as, if not better than, those of Malik Moore. Maybe Lewis's camp wanted more money than Illinois was willing to pay? Or more than the Illini will be paying to Moore?
In any case, I will trust the coaching staff on this one. I hope that the Illini can get a transfer from Malik Moore. He would fill a need on the roster for next season.
I just don't understand how much better he might be than 6'6" 200-pound Sophomore Guard Sam Lewis from Toledo, via Simeon High School. (He just recently transferred to Virginia.) Lewis averaged 16.2 points/4.7 rebounds/1.2 assists this past season, while shooting 47.0% on FGs, including 44.4% on 3-pointers, and 76.6% on FTs. I liked that Lewis is only a sophomore, that he's an Illinois/Chicago kid, and that his numbers are as good as, if not better than, those of Malik Moore. Maybe Lewis's camp wanted more money than Illinois was willing to pay? Or more than the Illini will be paying to Moore?
In any case, I will trust the coaching staff on this one. I hope that the Illini can get a transfer from Malik Moore. He would fill a need on the roster for next season.
Is he on our radar?
The fact that he is playing at the Nike Hoops Summit next week suggests he will be a pretty good college player... Go ahead and look up the world team from last year. You'll recognize most of those guys by name.
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