Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread
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ptgrd23
- orange county CA
I am sure commitments were made to recruits and returnees about playing time.
I suspect the only caveat we told them was that Will might come back (does not look like thats happening).
As much as I would love to add a Sarr or Storr - it suspect you would really piss off Ty, Andrej etc.
I suspect the only caveat we told them was that Will might come back (does not look like thats happening).
As much as I would love to add a Sarr or Storr - it suspect you would really piss off Ty, Andrej etc.
63 Split
- Mesa, AZ
Agree with this 100%. Guys like Sarr risk leaving a mark on their reputation by simply going after the biggest check. They are free to do that, of course,… to each his own - and if money is all that matters to him, then he did the right thing. Others, like AS, place value on things like program, history, player development, strength and conditioning, atmosphere, culture, etc.
Underwood and staff or not newbies to this “deal making” and have developed a fairly keen sense of when they are simply being played for a bigger check, and I for one am happy to see them walk away. The power is in ‘knowing when to fold em’ and ideally, having an alternate target. In this case, I think our alternate target is the better option and appears Sarr may have lost money by trying too hard.
As a Bama/Illini fan who watched him tear up the Illini last year I would love to see Oats snag him.
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Alabama to reportedly host one of top players available in transfer portal
Alabama will reportedly host one of the top remaining uncommitted prospects available in the transfer portal this upcoming weekend.
We have done a good job of recruiting in the portal, finding players outside the portal (Will & Europeans) and adjusting to the up & down recruitments of kids in the portal, but I would like to be doing better at retention. Getting Boz, Tommi, & Ty back is a solid start this year after the disaster that was last year (yeah you can throw in Hummer/Davis/Jason if it makes you feel better), but hated losing Tre & Morez; I really think the next step is getting outstanding in retention & improving continuity, where you aren't starting with so many gaping holes in the lineup & we don't have to add as many pieces.
To me we did great at putting out the fire, but to be outstanding we need to figure out how to avoid the fire
I agree and love our additions. I really feel outsiders are undervalueing Petrovic and Mirkovic much like KJ was. I feel Petrovic is going to be amazing for this team even if he may not be a major NBA prospect. He should make those around him better and provide leadership we may have lacked at times last season. I am as excited to see his impac6 as much as anyone we are adding.
The question is this: Is Sarr responsible for this or his agent? My inclination is the agent. It was reported Sarr was mismanaged by his agent earlier this week.
band camp
- STL City
I did not bring the topic back into the discussion. I just commented. Im always good. Thank you.
Very few teams avoided it better than we did this off-season. Among high major teams, Illinois is currently 13th (45%) in returning minutes from last year. Only 7 teams are over 50%. Purdue is a massive outlier, but I anticipate them being unable to sustain it once this current group (who mostly all came in together as freshmen) leaves.
Does 45% include Rodgers? (I don't think it does but can't remember last time I looked at this myself)
Illini2010-11
- Sugar Grove
I have not looked, but I would assume not, given he played 0 minutes. If you include his value, this team is returning well over 50% of anticipated minutes. This has the vibes of two years ago (the continuity). This bodes very well for success.
Though Ty has not played a single game minute with anyone on this years roster.
I don't think so. My source was Torvik. I don't think his model uses anything but data from the prior season.
sacraig
- The desert
I am going to guess us not being willing to get as dirty as others in recruiting him had more to do with losing him than the weather.
I'd love to hear Ryan Baker's take. At the time he tweeted something cryptic like "Illinois has a tough decision. " The implication seemed to be that Evans would commit if we dropped Brunson. Groce went for it all.
Evans would have saved his job for a few more years at least.
Or the fact that Tomi who is obviously back miss several minutes and games due to mono, the flu, and and ankle injury. That number would be a bit higher. Missing those games will have little if any impact next season.
This will probably sound like a hot take since Brunson was the national player of the year as a junior but I actually thought Evans was a better college player than Brunson(at least the two years they both played in college).
Brunson was way more efficient but he played with a lot more talent around him. Evans dragged that Oklahoma State team to the #1 offense in the country per Kenpom(Evans literally had to create basically everything for that offense). Dude was so incredibly quick. I'm know he's small but I'm honestly surprised he didn't have a better professional career.
Somethings don’t really factor in enough: The change in a player a year later! Stats usually go up!
we can multiply that by 7 (5 returning and two in the portal). Also… how a player might benefit by fit… the system they enter! and lets not forget the players that surround each other!
I see a lot of potential for our players to thrive in the environment! It is a lot to do with the “fit”
we can multiply that by 7 (5 returning and two in the portal). Also… how a player might benefit by fit… the system they enter! and lets not forget the players that surround each other!
I see a lot of potential for our players to thrive in the environment! It is a lot to do with the “fit”
I'm guessing because the number was zero. It is never upside down and I'm guessing they glanced at the number thought it was good to go. Not an excuse but only thing I can come up with
Last year was hardly a disaster, you must be a youngster if you think last year was disaster for Illinois basketball.
Sarr yet a high end… NBA expectation… is not going to give the numbers that we see from older players ( the ones that wont go in round one)
I don’t see someone picking him up as the game changing scorer. He could be…. but the there is risk and the money should reflect that.
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