Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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No. Staff was doing everything they could to get everyone back and Blackwell. Retaining everyone from the roster was priority number 1. Had a pretty good idea everyone was coming back from the jump. Everything always sounds good and easy on paper and they tried but when things actually get down to it people start getting second thoughts.
0440, I think you're missing the point of the question. From the Blackwell's perspective, were they anticipating Andrej would not be back or did his retention simply give them 2nd pause that they previously did not factor in? I agree with caboose that all indications were the Illini led w Blackwell and went from lead to out the minute Andrej came back. (Perhaps that narrative is not right but it is the narrative as insiders gave it)
 
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David Robinson grew during his time at the U.S. Naval Academy, starting as a 6'7" freshman and growing to roughly 7'0" by the time he graduated.
A.I assisted.
I’m starting to change my tune about A.I.
If my 6 year old wants to be a hoopster; perhaps I could utilize it to assist my son in growing 5-6 inches??

And since A.I is capable of growth AND time travel…(because I don’t think AI existed in 83-87)
I might look into it for myself.
[6’4” + 6 inches…noice!!] /s. Obv.
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Every year there is some highly rated transfer that places higher emphasis on money, goes to a lesser team, and ends up mid-pack in their conference and any early exit from the tourney. What do you want kid, do you want to win, or are you scrapping for every penny. Let me know now, so I know if you're worth my time.
 
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Hope Coleman can transition from a small private school in St. Louis County, MO to the BIG. The change in completion will be a huge change for him. Being Wagler 2.0 would be like finding 2 needles in 2 haystacks or discovering 2 matching snowflakes. Sure hope he is IT. Wagler has certainly spoiled us.
I’m for giving Brad and the staff their due. Four first round NBA picks in three years while competing at a high level, making one E8 and one F4.

I watched UW (Washington) develop NBA talent and overall kill team chemistry. One set of rules for the 1-and-done, one set of rules for everyone else. While qualifying for nothing post-season.

Brad’s killing it on so many of the modern NCAA challenges.
 
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Wagler went pro and averaged 17 with pretty much the same roster, to think Blackwell couldn't come in and average 17-20 and go pro doesn't make sense to me. But I will just trust the staff knows what they are doing as much as I would have loved to see Blackwell here.
 
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“Petrovic the vet guard was bad, therefore we don’t need a depth guard” is as fallacious an argument as “Wagler was incredible, therefore we can unquestionably count on freshmen guards to be incredible” would be. Nobody is making the latter argument even as many people are very optimistic about the freshmen. You don’t need to make the former just to misrepresent what the less optimistic crowd are saying.

Lol...way to sensationalize your strawman.

I've presented not a single word of this. Talk about misrepresenting.
 
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No. Staff was doing everything they could to get everyone back and Blackwell. Retaining everyone from the roster was priority number 1. Had a pretty good idea everyone was coming back from the jump. Everything always sounds good and easy on paper and they tried but when things actually get down to it people start getting second thoughts.
That is true in every facet of life. It all sounds good in advance, then as decision time happens.....the reality hits. It can be buying a car, then the papers/cost gets dropped in front of you to sign, it can be changing jobs, then the formal offer comes from the new one, it's getting engaged, then the day gets closer and those questions start.

18-22 year old kids, making multi-million dollar decisions....let's try and be human and give these guys/their families a little room. For us, it's 20 PGG. For them, it's their livelihood.
 
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I know everyone is excited about “the Retention” but on paper we are a worse team next year than we were this year. Lots of variables have to hit for us to maintain.

And we don’t have enough defense or athleticism yet.
 
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Hope Coleman can transition from a small private school in St. Louis County, MO to the BIG. The change in completion will be a huge change for him. Being Wagler 2.0 would be like finding 2 needles in 2 haystacks or discovering 2 matching snowflakes. Sure hope he is IT. Wagler has certainly spoiled us.
I’m for giving Brad and the staff their due. Four first round NBA picks in three years while competing at a high level, making one E8 and one F4.

I watched UW (Washington) do that and overall kill team chemistry. One set of rules for the 1-and-done, one set of rules for everyone else. While qualifying for nothing post-season.

Brad’s killing it on so many of the modern NCAA challenges.
This site is nothing if not entertaining.

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“Dawg” is how UW (Washington) refers to themselves but I can’t believe this is a UW fan, they don’t get this passionate about UW MBB, like, ever
 
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He's the 4th option at guard for now. Good god this fanbase is getting worse by the day.
As much as I'd hate to see it, it's probably in your best interest to take a small vacation....
 
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Lol...way to sensationalize your strawman.

I've presented not a single word of this. Talk about misrepresenting.
Right, as I said, that language you bolded is something nobody is saying. It was you who made the odd argument that, somehow, Petrovic being a big disappointment means a different Illinois team one year later doesn’t need a depth guard.
 
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I think our fanbase is awesome and find demands for it to be lobotomized quite strange and unnecessary.


Not to toot my own horn but I think I more or less nailed it calling Vaaks a cross between KJ and Evansville Humrichous. He's just a much bigger and wider human than Wagler despite comparable height/length, he doesn't move in the same way.


I'm struggling to understand why Brandon Lee would leave at the moment he's all of a sudden needed in this way.

There's a missing piece here. Pretty lame to be relentlessly shamed and propagandized for stating the obvious.
Relentlessly shamed? Lobotomized? Propagandized? I think your the one who's being a bit unnecessary and strange.
 
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I think they would consider a guard or a big. It might come down to what things look like in summer workouts. They added Petrovic in late July last year.
This is exactly what I was thinking. The staff will see some summer workouts and then have an even better idea what they need/want and then go get that exact piece....or two.
 
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WHO ARE YOU GOING TO GO GET!?
Tyler, most of us here don't have a guy like Neel Ganta whose job it is to find players, but we very strongly suspect that somewhere out there exists an experienced mid-major, "team player" who has interest stepping up a level to come off the bench for a team that could compete for the National Championship. The Illini certainly have found those guys in the past: Jacob Grandison, Alfonso Plummer, Justin Harmon, Jake Davis, Ben Humrichous. I simply do not believe that there does not exist a veteran collegian who is willing to fill the 'first guard off the bench' role and provide considerably better defense than (checks notes) a freshman Ethan Brown.
 
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