Joel Goodson
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from last summer. kid has it going on:
hope he hits his ceiling (because it's sky high)
hope he hits his ceiling (because it's sky high)
Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread
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So his agent wants him to go somewhere he'll be "featured," and he's going to a team that's likely loaded with more talent than anyone?View attachment 50001
Tipton (never wrong, always original /s) also with a CB in for Dook
Chugged the Kool Aid till the very end
Don’t pretend the above isn’t an exaggerating also. Only McBride got above 9 points per game (10.0). All those guys you mentioned were one dimensional even if they had roles to play. I enjoyed that team but my point was don’t compare it to this one.
Nope that is not what any one wants. I think what people are saying is we would just like one more role player like Justin Harmon. Someone who has played college basketball, has experience and is willing to get a good pay raise and have a bench role. I know some insiders compared Brandon Lee to Andre Feliz last year. Well that didn’t happen. All people are trying to say is yes Keaton was amazing and we got lucky since Petro sucked. But what if we get a year like when we had Skyy and Jayden Epps. If that is Coleman then this team is not making the final four. That is what people are trying to say on this board. We all trust the staff but I have seen people say that after Skyy and Epps year Brad wasn’t going to trust freshman and now he is trusting that freshman are going to be big contributors. Now we are back to hoping 3 freshman are great.So we should have gone to the portal instead of retaining our guys who all would’ve been top guys in the portal had they entered?
Some of you are beyond miserable, goodness.
WE DO NOT NEED THE THREE FRESHMAN TO BE PERFECT OR GREAT. ITS NOT CRAZY TO ASK TOP 50 RECRUITS TO BE THE FIFTH AND EIGHT OPTIONS ON A REALLY GOOD TEAM.
Why do you think they went after Blackwell? The staff can recruit/want all the talent in the world. The players have to want it too.
agreed that offense will be number 1 and by big margin since Purdue isn't gonna be around. likely setting the kenpom record if mirk and stojakavic take the steps I expect. that alone can get you to final four. Alabama has done it
I'm concerned a bit at defending small guards again. Boswell had issues there last year but was disruptive at points and always wanted that assignment. I don't think we have answered that question for next year. stojakavic showed promise but once again would have trouble against the small guards
That will not make the "jake is only a forward" folks happy.
We really gotta move on from thinking about Brad's system as fitting neatly into 1-5 where each position is traditionally defined.
I know BU and staff tried to get Blackwell. I give credit for going for it.
I am assuming this is a Top 5 team as put together right now? You agree?
If Coleman and Morillo do well (which, I think they can), then the team is even stronger.
Question for me is: did other schools get that much better for next year as well? Maybe Florida?
I am hoping the Illini can stay with these teams in the Top Ten like this past year.
Remember when the team stood around and waited for Ayo to make the play? It was so frustrating. He would pass the ball and they would all pass it back to him and stand around the 3 point parameter.
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I think it all boils down to not having a “superstar” to the complainers. Problem is nobody knew about KW this time last year. In short, fear of the unknown. No one is pretending to have a one and done all American but Vaaks, Coleman, and Morillo are pretty impressive in the back court. Brown may surprise, he may not. Either way….the same staff is coaching this year. I trust their judgement. They’ve earned it.So we should have gone to the portal instead of retaining our guys who all would’ve been top guys in the portal had they entered?
He’s going to Duke…Guess they don’t have anybody with high usage there? Besides the multiple top 25 guards…
The staff couldn't have been serious. After all who wouldn't want to play for Illinois at any price? /s
Forget the fact that being a part of a team and passing on shots might drop you from a lottery pick to 25th. It's roughly $10 million less on a rookie contract.
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Do you know with certainty that the staff thinks they have enough? Or are they also concerned and looking for an answer? None of us know what they think.
I have to say, this is a pretty good idea. I’ve never watched these guys at all, but just from stats, if they are willing to take the role, I would do it.Oh, absolutely.
As a baseline, Justin Harmon - who was very glad to come play here - averaged 14pts, 3.8rebs, 2.9ast at UTAH Valley. At Illinois, he played 18.7 minutes per game.
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Actually... it's the other way around. You'll make much more playing 15 minutes here than starting for a penurious school like Boston College, Utah, DePaul, etc.
The question remains, are they willing to do it? I can’t come up with a good reason our coaches would balk if the the price was right…unless they want a back-up PF.
Wouldn’t shock me if our insiders just go away for the next few months. Some of you people are truly insufferable. It’s hard to read honestly.
Watch out, by saying you’re concerned they’re going to start calling you miserable now!
Perfect. Thank you for responding. I get it he doesn't want to come because the usage isn't there, I get it. Facts are there are still over 1,000 players still in the portal probably closer to 2K. There is no doubt that there are players out there that want to come whether it be price, championship aspirations whatever it may be. If in fact they want the best chance to win they will continue adding. Thank you for letting me know they aren't done. We can't rely on 4 freshmen in the top 10. I will stand by
All the “his numbers not being as high could hurt his draft stock” is absolute BS.
No one is drafting Blackwell to be a high usage player in the NBA. Anyone in his camp saying that is disingenuous and is just masking him wanting numbers for his own edification. I’m sorry but it’s true.
NBA doesn’t want a 23 year old because they averaged 20 points over 14. If you think they look at empty calorie stats over defense, playmaking, efficiency, and being a part of a winning team…Then you are sorely mistaken.
Look at Yaxel’s numbers…there is a comp for an uber talented older player who took a lesser usage at a winning team and boosted his draft stock.
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Well… we’re asking Brown to be the Ninth option.
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