Iowa, Iowa State investigating athletes gambling

#52      
Meh, there's no fan of ANY program in the country that shouldn't(or couldn't) be saying the same thing. In the days of NIL, the portal and the amount of money changing hands....the toothpaste is out of the tube. No going back.
On a side note, has anyone ever really tried to put toothpaste back in a tube? I feel like that's a thing we accept as true without questioning.

But yes, I agree, the toothpaste is out of the tube on this. I suspect, without anything other than the wisdom of old age, this isn't contained to a few schools. If the student-athletes at Iowa were smart enough to figure this out, imagine the racket that is being run in the Ivy league and alike.
 
#53      

Decent article giving insight to what info the investors might have. Almost seems like the companies tipped the investigators on possible illegal betting. They probably noticed bets being place in areas the public cannot go to through the app location feature. The companies probably realized those betting from those areas could have unfair advantage. The companies probably have automated alerts if bets are placed in certain areas like MLB clubhouses or university athletic facilities.

Investigators found that multiple athletes bet at their university residences and “areas of the university not routinely open to the public” which implies athletic facilities or locker rooms, which are typically accessed by key cards or fobs. Here’s what we know about the charges against each athlete.
“Investigators found that multiple athletes bet at their university residences and “areas of the university not routinely open to the public” which implies athletic facilities or locker rooms, which are typically accessed by key cards or fobs. Here’s what we know about the charges against each athlete.”
 
#54      
There is only so much coaches can do to monitor their team’s after hours behavior. NU, Iowa and Iowa State show the importance and value of senior leadership and captains who will lead younger players in a positive way. When the culture permits seniors to engage in destructive behavior it can be almost impossible to turn that around without getting rid of the leaders. If the bad behavior leaders are also important players “too valuable to lose” the result is predictable.
 
#57      
On a side note, has anyone ever really tried to put toothpaste back in a tube? I feel like that's a thing we accept as true without questioning.

But yes, I agree, the toothpaste is out of the tube on this. I suspect, without anything other than the wisdom of old age, this isn't contained to a few schools. If the student-athletes at Iowa were smart enough to figure this out, imagine the racket that is being run in the Ivy league and alike.
I mean, they put it in to begin with. There must be a way to put it back in.
 
#59      
I mean, they put it in to begin with. There must be a way to put it back in.
You can absolutely regulate this stuff, and we should. There's a big difference between what we used to know as gambling and what it is now. These apps and modern slot/video poker machines are specifically engineered to encourage compulsive gambling whether anyone will admit it or not. (And having worked briefly inside the gaming industry, I can tell you that they're admitting it.)

I can never recall the exact figure but there's data out there that suggests a really large portion of wagers are made by a really small sliver of folks who gamble, it's like 1 percent of bettors handling 90-plus percent of the action or something like that. Not that there haven't always been problem gamblers out there but it's just way too easy to fall into that pit with all of the new pathways to place bets available now.
 
#62      

Mr. Tibbs

southeast DuPage
Always. Otherwise the house ceases to exist.
in the best casino game for the player , which is craps , odds are still tilted 4%-5% in the houses favor

just about everything else is at least 6%

unless you have INSIDE info, it’s just about impossible over the long term to win at sports betting .

good card counters who can fool the house and not get caught can win at black jack . but long term they always get caught and kicked out
 
#65      
Seems like all the Hawkeyes can find are transfers that have gambled. Ulis, Bruce, etc. What a joke. Maybe they should do a deep dive into current roster players. Looks as though the focus has been on the defectors.
 
#70      

Brock who was considering Illinois with him being from Quincy, chose Iowa State as he felt the coaching situation was better at the time. Good kid who was going to be starting RB this year. Kids make mistakes and going to pay for this one.
 
#71      

The Galloping Ghost

Washington, DC
Part of a bigger trend.
Yo, it's wild this extremely addictive thing has become a massive problem that's only going to continue to get worse. Who could have possibly seen any of this coming??? Meanwhile, you have absolute degenerates like Lefty betting a billion dollars on sports and desperately trying to wager on a Ryder Cup he's playing in. I don't know. This Pandora's box is open. The people are getting what they want and we are all reaping what we've sowed. As I've said before, I find the gambling-centric focus of live sports wildly off-putting. I know I'm the outlier, though, and dammit, there's money to be made. Can't wait till that new Black Sox Scandal drops and an entire league's legitimacy is called into question. Just hoping it doesn't involve a team I'm invested in.
 
#72      
In my political career as an alderman the one vote I will always regret is voting for an ordinance allowing a class B liquor license holder to have slot machines. It is now not enough for bars to have them but every convenience store and pizza joint has them too. What a terrible decision and I own it (along with everyone else that voted yes).
 
#73      
In my political career as an alderman the one vote I will always regret is voting for an ordinance allowing a class B liquor license holder to have slot machines. It is now not enough for bars to have them but every convenience store and pizza joint has them too. What a terrible decision and I own it (along with everyone else that voted yes).
Not too long ago I flew into St. Louis for a trip up to Urbana and instead of taking the same interstate I've taken a billion times I decided to cut over on 16 and jog up through Sullivan just to look at something different. Every little town along the way had one gaming room with three or four trucks in front of it at 1:00 on a Tuesday and it was kind of stomach churning, knowing that those machines are designed to aggravate addictive behavior and basically ruin lives.

I'm not necessarily anti-gambling on the whole and like a day at the track as much as the next guy, but it's gotta be more difficult than punching a button on your phone or walking down to the corner.
 
#75      

Losing your #1 DT will be interesting to see how it affects their overall defense
Ferentz told reporters they will appeal the NCAA’S decision. His rationale is the guy didn’t deny doing it. Pretty lame reasoning. I got caught but didn’t deny it. Building character without consequences.