what's Great about Groce
Complaint #1 Groce can't recruit
Answer: It's true we are not a program with a great rep as a stepping stone for the pros. Who cares! I'd much rather have a coach of integrity like Groce than some sleaze who is paying his players under the table or procuring prostitutes for them. I have watched how our coach treats his players and it's clear he cares more about the well being of his student/athletes than he does about winning. That means we have a coach that thoughtful parents would want their son to play for. Paul family is a great example. Coach handled that situation extraordinarily well.
Further answer to Groce can't recruit.
1. Groce has brought onboard "Illini Guys" players who want to be here with good attitudes as far as I can tell. Nunn, Hill, Thorne, Jalen-Coleman-Lands,
Finke are a few examples of talented hard working unselfish team players.
Last years guard transfers were not as good.
2. We are hardly a destination that 5 star players are trying to get to so it's a hard sell.
3. We lost one elite guard prospect to an east coast team that offered his dad a job. (slease) Another guards plane got sidetracked to Indy getting the visit off on the wrong foot & emphasizing how far we were away from his home--
another was convinced by his mom to change his commitment back to the home town team and another was also convinced by family to stay at home
More on recruitment.
When Groce got here the cupboard was bare. After Brandon & D.J graduated
Groce basically had to clean house because we had many players on the bench who did not belong at the D1 level.
Weber (bless him) really only recruited in Illinois Groce has recruited Illinois
Hill, Nunn, Tate, Williams, ( restarted the Simeon pipeline)Starks, Rice, Finke.
but has TjL coming from Wisconsin and got a commitment from JCL from INDIANA -- that does not happen to often.
Complaint : Groce can't recognize talent
Last year's guard transfers were not the best butTJL seems to be rising in national ranking and JCL, Finke, Black, Jordan, Thorne, Hill & Nunn are all
first rate players. Nunn's thunderdunk in the Purdue game took a perfect pass from frosh JCL. We are still rebuilding at the point with all our injuries but talent is not our problem.
Complaint Groce can't develop his players.
Just not so. How many of us ever thought that Mav or Tate would ever be serviceable or that Lewis would be at all effective. My goodness look at Mav!
He is actually making strides. He may be a big slow white guy who can't jump but he is actually providing serviceable minutes this year. And our freshmen WOW. Finke is effective. JCL is making an impact and Jordan & Williams are improving too. The defense is slowly coming too. The D in the Purdue game was a big improvement.
Complaint: Groce can't Coach
Reply: I'm not sure I'm that great a judge of x's & o's but the gameplan and execution in the Purdue game were exceptional. Very few of us thought we had a prayer of winning after the Michigan State letdown. BUT WE DID!
My pet gametime peeve is to see us come out of a timeout and the other team gain's momentum. I've seen to much of this under most Illinois coach's in the last 50+ years.
Personally since high school I enjoy teams that don't waste free throw opportunities and don't turn the ball over much and those aspects of the game have been good under Groce.
Frequently here I listen to complaints about inbound plays under Groce but
one of the greatest plays in the history of Illinois basketball was the inbounds PLAY OF THE YEAR to beat " 1 Indiana.