Can't blame Trent on the last play. Marquette bodied him off the ball. It's kind of confusing to have a game this close but one team has 20 more free throw attempts.
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I want Chester Frazier to have a good 45 minutes alone with Curbelo.
Zorak
- Naperville
Trent turned it over in the last minute.
You mean last year?
danielb927
Orange Krush Class of 2013
- Rochester, MN
I’ll play devil’s advocate here. Curbelo’s an emotional player and an instinct player. If he’s going to clean up the turnovers this season, it’s gotta start with some emotional maturity. Getting benched on the way to a W only hurts as far as your own pride goes; being handed the reins to lead your team and teammates straight to an L — that stings way more (at least, I hope it does). Show the tape while those feelings are fresh and let’s see if Curbelo’s as quick a learner as Kofi has been the last two seasons.
BU needs to shorten the leash on Curb Appeal to a 3 foot chain. I blame BU for not benching a player who is absolutely killing his team with beyond sloppy, stupid turnovers, wild off balance shots, no court vision, constant complaining to the refs, and an uncanny instinct for crushing any momentum we had. Trent should have been running the point for most of the second half, instead of letting Andre spiral down until the whole team circled the drain.
This ^^^^
illiniCA
- DC Area
I was convinced this was the plan the last 5 min. Basically see had to show he could get it together and be that guy or fail and have gone learn.
Yeah I'm still baffled as to why he kept Curbelo in for so long (when it was clear as day he was playing poorly)
Epsilon
M tipping over
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In fairness, I don’t really understand why he didn’t see that Curbelo was doing hero ball and didn’t pull him. But Shaka Smart is not the better coach. Not by a long shot. They gambled and won. We imploded. Sad thing is Marquette really isn’t that great of a team. But certainly better than us tonight.
If Curbelo continues with the crap I watched tonight.. ..we're in big trouble
He proved that against Loyola last year
Trent got mugged on that play.
Please hold Underwood accountable for allowing Curbelo to operate that way in postgame presser.
hooraybeer
- Pittsburgh, PA
sign off for the night boys. let’s have some rational discussion later this week. ILL
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I'm eating a bit of crow. I downplayed the concerns of people who said Curbelo needed to dial it down, etc. I am just totally shocked that he reverted this way.
IlliniKat91
- Chicago, IL
Curbelo driving constantly without kicking out after he was blocked numerous times stings. Here's hoping he learns from that and they all come out angry next Monday.
Just to be clear, I'm not crazy and the officiating was off, right? It seemed like there was no rhythm to the first ten minutes of play and it just carried through everything.
Just to be clear, I'm not crazy and the officiating was off, right? It seemed like there was no rhythm to the first ten minutes of play and it just carried through everything.
Did Tony Peterson coach that final five minutes?
How is that not a kick and why is it not reviewable?
Plummer and Payne are invisible out there.
Does anyone else want to talk about how deep we are now?
26 turnovers.
Who was the ref that always bones us? Wasn't he reffing that game? What's our record when he is there?
I'm not sure how to even process what just happened. I'm coping by wanting to believe that Underwood wanted to break Curbelo's bad habits and used an early game to do it.
How is that not a kick and why is it not reviewable?
Plummer and Payne are invisible out there.
Does anyone else want to talk about how deep we are now?
26 turnovers.
Who was the ref that always bones us? Wasn't he reffing that game? What's our record when he is there?
I'm not sure how to even process what just happened. I'm coping by wanting to believe that Underwood wanted to break Curbelo's bad habits and used an early game to do it.
Nah. We are that good.
get hutch back and Kofi back. Curbelo will get it together hopefully sooner than later.ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
So the big question as we all knew this year was going to be whether Curbelo could do with higher usage and more responsibility what he was able to do in spurts last year. And the spurts were on purpose, we saw the beginnings of his performance tonight lots of times last year and Underwood would just sit him down for whole halves. We didn't need to rely on him so we just took the good and discarded the bad.
You don't want to overreact to one game, especially when it's against an opponent who plays in the way best suited to induce a meltdown, but let's not mince words, that was a single handed game losing meltdown, the panicked out of control performance of someone who isn't capable of managing themselves on the floor at this level.
And compounding things is our lack of other options in that role. Trent was brilliant tonight, but he's not that guy. Plummer was nearly as disturbing as Belo, a total zero from him. Any notion that any of the bigs can supplement our initiating is a fantasy.
BU should not have let Belo finish that game, akin to a boxing ref not stopping a fight for a helpless fighter, but we can't pretend he had workable alternatives.
Teams with a lot of good players, which we have, can survive some flaws. We were on our way to a 6ish seed two years ago with a team that couldn't shoot to save its life.
Having said that, no one to reliably initiate offense is a very crippling flaw, as anyone who remembers the low points of Jaylon Tate or Sam Maniscalco or Khalid Lewis can tell you. You just lose the ability to tap any of your other strengths (see: Cockburn, Kofi)
Belo will have better days, but again, nights like tonight were regular occurrences for him last year and should be expected until proven otherwise. Which means we're nowhere near a top 10 team, and depending on how well teams that aren't built to Shaka Ball incorporate the film they're about to get, look out below.
You don't want to overreact to one game, especially when it's against an opponent who plays in the way best suited to induce a meltdown, but let's not mince words, that was a single handed game losing meltdown, the panicked out of control performance of someone who isn't capable of managing themselves on the floor at this level.
And compounding things is our lack of other options in that role. Trent was brilliant tonight, but he's not that guy. Plummer was nearly as disturbing as Belo, a total zero from him. Any notion that any of the bigs can supplement our initiating is a fantasy.
BU should not have let Belo finish that game, akin to a boxing ref not stopping a fight for a helpless fighter, but we can't pretend he had workable alternatives.
Teams with a lot of good players, which we have, can survive some flaws. We were on our way to a 6ish seed two years ago with a team that couldn't shoot to save its life.
Having said that, no one to reliably initiate offense is a very crippling flaw, as anyone who remembers the low points of Jaylon Tate or Sam Maniscalco or Khalid Lewis can tell you. You just lose the ability to tap any of your other strengths (see: Cockburn, Kofi)
Belo will have better days, but again, nights like tonight were regular occurrences for him last year and should be expected until proven otherwise. Which means we're nowhere near a top 10 team, and depending on how well teams that aren't built to Shaka Ball incorporate the film they're about to get, look out below.
And I think that was the play where the MU guy kicked the ball as well
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