Probably so … but the ball wasn’t in the cylinder, and was never going to be in the cylinder.
Marquette 71, Illinois 64 Postgame
This...I can't understand why
Well whippersnapper, back in the day we would be hoarse the day after EVERY home game (and deaf the day after every concert, but that's another story).
Tacomallini
- Washington State
Fell asleep listening to Illini Inquirer podcast. They said the Kolek injury was legit and you could see his leg was black and blue above the tape on his leg. Baller
Also BU gave praise to Harmon - not sure if coach speak. Looked like he was playing offense/defense w Luke at the end. I definitely could’ve missed some but he seems like a nonfactor so far. Any insight would be appreciated by this non-coach
Also BU gave praise to Harmon - not sure if coach speak. Looked like he was playing offense/defense w Luke at the end. I definitely could’ve missed some but he seems like a nonfactor so far. Any insight would be appreciated by this non-coach
blackdog
- Champaign
The dude gets on the glass like a madman. He got the team at least two extra possessions beating the entire Marquette team for offensive rebounds.
I've groaned about the lack of fan engagement for a couple years now so I'm not going to waste everyone's time rehashing all of that.
Just kidding. Yes I am.
I agree with others - SFC simply isn't an intimidating environment anymore and there are several reasons for that.
1. We were dormant for several years on the court. Down years lead to down cheering sections. Too many down years in a row and suddenly there's no one to pass down the DNA of the previously high octane Krush.
2. Cell phones
3. Ticket prices - higher prices attract an older, slightly more affluent audience who is naturally less likely to act like lunatics in public
4. Beer sales- I'm guilty of this one. Holding beer, drinking beer, buying beer, running to the bathroom because you've drank too much beer all make it harder to yell, clap, and get loud. Plus, there's no longer any motivation to pregame because you know you can just get it inside so students are probably showing up less lubricated than they used to.
5. SFC renovation. Removed seats. No students on the court. Gave priority to donors, sponsors, and the like while deprioritizing the student section. They're literally more removed from the on-court action so it makes sense they'd be less engaged.
6. Small student section. We made steps to remedy this but a large portion of the students are still relegated to the upper levels. I was about half way up the 200s section last night and the Krush was behind me.
7. No war chant to keep people clapping and engaged during stops in the game.
I'm sure there are others.
Just kidding. Yes I am.
I agree with others - SFC simply isn't an intimidating environment anymore and there are several reasons for that.
1. We were dormant for several years on the court. Down years lead to down cheering sections. Too many down years in a row and suddenly there's no one to pass down the DNA of the previously high octane Krush.
2. Cell phones
3. Ticket prices - higher prices attract an older, slightly more affluent audience who is naturally less likely to act like lunatics in public
4. Beer sales- I'm guilty of this one. Holding beer, drinking beer, buying beer, running to the bathroom because you've drank too much beer all make it harder to yell, clap, and get loud. Plus, there's no longer any motivation to pregame because you know you can just get it inside so students are probably showing up less lubricated than they used to.
5. SFC renovation. Removed seats. No students on the court. Gave priority to donors, sponsors, and the like while deprioritizing the student section. They're literally more removed from the on-court action so it makes sense they'd be less engaged.
6. Small student section. We made steps to remedy this but a large portion of the students are still relegated to the upper levels. I was about half way up the 200s section last night and the Krush was behind me.
7. No war chant to keep people clapping and engaged during stops in the game.
I'm sure there are others.
InDaAZ
- Eugene, Oregon
If you watch, many of Hawkins blocks are from behind & a major reason for that is how often he gets beat off the dribble & is chasing. I was always taught good defense is staying between your man & the basket...He does have the athleticism & length to often make up for it though, which is a big reason for the number of blocks he gets.
Out of all the Coleman slamming (it’s all the rage!), this one wins the prize for least insightful…
He almost never gets “beat off the dribble.” If he’s blocking a shot from behind, it’s when he’s by necessity switching off his man.
Your description better resembles what we saw a lot of from Mayer last year, but not Hawkins.
He's right, by-cracky!
Honestly, I think part of it is just a lack of understanding of when to get loud.
Maybe they should only give discounts on tickets to students who have passed a class on effective Krushing, lead by some seasoned Krush veterans from yesteryear.
lstewart53x3
- Scottsdale, Arizona
Krush with unacceptable behavior in this game:
illiniboard.com
No Breaks
We'd been on our feet for a while. And we were told when we were hired that we got a short break twice per shift. So all we did was take a quick little break from about the 11 minute mark to the 6 minute mark. And that's all it took for Marquette to put the game away. I tweeted about it at the...
I got the solutions…are ya ready?
1. We were dormant for several years on the court. Down years lead to down cheering sections. Too many down years in a row and suddenly there's no one to pass down the DNA of the previously high octane Krush.
Mandate: Illini Pride For Prudes Class 101 (Taught by Alumni) 1989, 2005 team members are guest speakers/instructors…& Illini Football History 1&2 …and they’re not getting out of it unless they know Dick Butkus’s life story.
2. Cell phones
Prohibit Cell Phones…I wanna see less cell phones than a Quentin Tarantino Film Set.
3. Ticket prices - higher prices attract an older, slightly more affluent audience who is naturally less likely to act like lunatics in public Have the Blue-Collar Rich (yes they exist) purchase as many white collar rich types as possible in Illini charity auctions and have them work construction in the hot sun until they can: swear, drink, date waitresses named Flo & drive Harleys. (Basically the plot of Caddyshack II)
4. Beer sales- I'm guilty of this one. Holding beer, drinking beer, buying beer, running to the bathroom because you've drank too much beer all make it harder to yell, clap, and get loud. Plus, there's no longer any motivation to pregame because you know you can just get it inside so students are probably showing up less lubricated than they used to. Offer free beer on the Quad and local haunts…but prohibit beer inside SFC. Offer free bladder transplants for those that try to sneak it in & just can’t hold it. Offer free liver transplants for people who need it…particularly the ones who drive Harleys and date waitresses named Flo.
5. SFC renovation. Removed seats. No students on the court. Gave priority to donors, sponsors, and the like while deprioritizing the student section. They're literally more removed from the on-court action so it makes sense they'd be less engaged. Bring back those seats and add even more. Not enough room? It’s 2023, why not free-floating seats on hoverboards above the action?
6. Small student section. We made steps to remedy this but a large portion of the students are still relegated to the upper levels. I was about half way up the 200s section last night and the Krush was behind me. Get them closer to the floor any way possible. (See Hoverboards)
7. No war chant to keep people clapping and engaged during stops in the game.
Non-stop war chant or you lose your seat to a Krush member!
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What’s Brad saying?
#4....I don't know....I for one find that it's much easier to yell and get loud if I've had a couple of beers.....
......Cheers!Maybe a player to be named later????
Not if Kansas is overrated too…and right now…they just might be.
lstewart53x3
- Scottsdale, Arizona
They’re 3-0 with a win over #17 Kentucky. They current sit at #3 in KenPom. They might not be #1 on all year, but they’re clearly a top 10 team.
I think they’re top 10. Its early and I just think they have some really good pieces that haven’t come together just yet/like they’re capable of…and yes their isn’t a ton of depth. But they’re darn good. Are they #1 right now? Quite possibly, they are not.
But are they gonna be in the FFour again…?probably…Self usually finds a way.
You thought the atmosphere was bad last night?
Dan
Admin
The FS1 broadcast lowered the volume on the crowd noise. This was apparent especially in moments when both the FS1 announcers & people there said the place was jumping, yet it didn't come across properly. Visually, the SFC looked great on broadcast per usual.
Overall encouraging.
I think the offense ran smoother with Dainja. He cleared drives to the rim vs. repeated quickly aborted dribble drives that had to be passed back out. I would like to see Dainja with a 1 (power) dribble maximum rule. He lost it once trying to dribble 15ft from the basket, and almost lost it again on a dribble out at the 3pt line. I'd give a 25% chance of turnover for every dribble he takes past the first.
Coleman, for all the good things he does is frustrating. The game would have been really close if we got back the turnovers as he attempted to force a pass over his man (to a man that would have been immediately trapped anyhow). He turned it over at least twice this way, maybe 3 times. Additionally the shots more than 1ft behind the 3pt arc need to stop. "If you shoot from more than a foot behind the 3pt arc, with more than 3s on the shot clock, you sit for 5m, no ifs and or buts."
I think the offense ran smoother with Dainja. He cleared drives to the rim vs. repeated quickly aborted dribble drives that had to be passed back out. I would like to see Dainja with a 1 (power) dribble maximum rule. He lost it once trying to dribble 15ft from the basket, and almost lost it again on a dribble out at the 3pt line. I'd give a 25% chance of turnover for every dribble he takes past the first.
Coleman, for all the good things he does is frustrating. The game would have been really close if we got back the turnovers as he attempted to force a pass over his man (to a man that would have been immediately trapped anyhow). He turned it over at least twice this way, maybe 3 times. Additionally the shots more than 1ft behind the 3pt arc need to stop. "If you shoot from more than a foot behind the 3pt arc, with more than 3s on the shot clock, you sit for 5m, no ifs and or buts."
Loved the game was disappointed by the outcome, but the team did really well. A few mental mistakes but overall was well played. Nobody mentioned this (probably but not going to 100%verify) but this is a game we most likely would have won if Harris played. He would have totally eliminated Marquettes guard. But I’m still glad he’s red shirting.
Also another post game presser where coach says we ask Coleman to do "alot." Well I think it is time to ask Coleman to do a lot less. It isn't working.
Agreed He needs role constraction
We need his defense and someone in the lane to take short jumpers and rebound
His passing and shooting do not merit being in the backcourt.
Loyalillini10
- Urbana, IL
