RJs three off the side of the backboard started a fast break and easy basket for Miznoz. Can't get much worse than that.
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I agree, and how many games has it been the same. Other than the UCLA game, TSJ from three is as likely to end up in the first row as it is to draw iron. RJ shot is incredibly inconsistent compared to last year. CoHawk is back to his old form from three, too much line drive. How many games have we heard illini are 0 for 10, 1 for 12, or 2 for 16 from 3. MM and Epps have the best strokes from 3. I know some on here have a problem with MM, but I do not know how many times I have seen him unguarded at the arch and nobody gets him the ball. MM is the only guy, sans Epps and maybe Skyy, I want being volume 3 shooters on this team at this time. I am sure MM is frustrated with not getting the ball when he is wide open on the wing or in the corner.
Been saying this for 2.5 years. Hawk puts the ball on the floor an awful lot when it’s not necessary and frequently foolish. Pass the ball to a legitimate guard and run down the court.
Break guys down off the dribble is not in his toolset. He’s a decent outside Shooter and he can score some points inside on putbacks. Do that and I’m happy. Breaking guys down off the dribble I’d be overjoyed.
Guess you missed the 30 point drubbing at home by Kansas Saturday huh?
I mean do I have to explain my point? As a whole….. do we want to be as competitive as Northwestern? Pre-NIL, PostNIL, doesn’t matter. If people don’t give to the Guardians, based on how the season has met or not met their expectations, then we won’t compete, thus Northwestern.
Oh, and yes, Illinois NIL is one of the gold standard for how to do NIL. I am in the NiL world with a different Collective near me. Illinois is always brought up. If anything is cutting edge, Illinois is the example used to show how it works.
Any good defense requires great communication.
Illini92and96
- Austin, TX
Maybe he doesn’t want to air brutal truths in public. Most importantly he took ownership as the leader. That’s the first step and I’d be worried if he didn’t.
I think I’ll be watching the women’s team for awhile.
I wondered if someone would go there instead
Yes I noticed a couple of times last night when miz players made simple cuts from one side to the other corner our guys didn't seem sure on who they should cover. The guy they were on or the one that just went by them. When this happened someone ended up wide open for a shot. Sometimes they realized it and made us pay and sometimes they didn't catch it. If we can't communicate and keep track of people away from the ball we are way behind the eight ball.
Agreed. No one would argue that point.
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If Terrance guarding Kobe Brown the whole game no way he goes for 30, we’re trying to play so many different ways. Simply the game for the freshman, Brad needs to put his players in better positions to succeed and he needs to shorten the rotation imo, need to let our studs get in rhythm. Honestly getting blown out by missouri that last 13 mins was the only time Brad just left one lineup out there and they found a rhythm. I understand everyone wants sincere in all the time he’s fine in spurts right now but him and Ty can’t be in together imo. Atleast not yet until Ty is commanding respect on the offensive end. I hope this team stays together, last year UNC was about to miss the tourney but they clicked at the right time and it was mainly because Hubert went with his iron 5, we can’t do that now at this point in the season but need to simplify as much as we can.
I don't think Harris has the handles to be the starting point guard. More likely Epps would replace Skyy. Let Harris continue to be the defensive specialist/energy off the bench.
Southernillini
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We gotta stop switching every screen. It lets the opponent get whatever matchup they want. It also takes away from our own tenacity. There is something be said for fighting through screens and shutting your man down.
It would also go a long ways towards not getting blown out with Skyy on the floor.
It would also go a long ways towards not getting blown out with Skyy on the floor.
This feels like the day after Christmas. A Christmas where you woke up and didn't have any presents under the tree.
Between tickets, gas, lodging, food, and about 87 Bud Lights, I spent a small fortune on this game and ended up leaving it with about 8 minutes left.
Obviously we're broken but I don't think we're in tear it down and start over mode like many have said. Maybe more like blow on the cartridge and restart it.
Just have a few guys right now playing for the wrong I.
Honestly, I think we should get back to a more traditional man to man. There's not enough accountability with this defense. No pride.
Still think we become a solid team by year's end.
Between tickets, gas, lodging, food, and about 87 Bud Lights, I spent a small fortune on this game and ended up leaving it with about 8 minutes left.
Obviously we're broken but I don't think we're in tear it down and start over mode like many have said. Maybe more like blow on the cartridge and restart it.
Just have a few guys right now playing for the wrong I.
Honestly, I think we should get back to a more traditional man to man. There's not enough accountability with this defense. No pride.
Still think we become a solid team by year's end.
Illini 3 point shooting
Texas 10-23 43.5%
UCLA 12-25 48.0%
Maryland 5-25 25%
Penn State 7-23 30.4 %
Missouri 7-31 22%
Unless you got Kofi putting in 25 a night, not going to win many games shooting 30% or less from beyond the arc.
A massive injection of "chemistry" or esprit de corp isn't going to help much.
I would like for someone to compare Mayer’e 3pt percentage to the rest of the teams over those same games. He needs to be shooting more. Shannon driving more. Dain setting screens and the FR playing defense developing.
illini80
- Forgottonia
Less talented physically, but far more fun to watch.
Offensive The ball movement is atrocious. We have way too much dribbling with no purpose. 5 out is not working. 1 in 4 out with has proved effective at times. As a coach, plays are designed and scripted for shots to be taken by your best shooter at their best spot on the floor. Currently, this boils down to trust. I do not see the players trusting they will get an opportunity for the ball to come back to them. Everyone we play from here on out knows to chase us off the 3 point line (look at our shot selection). We have people camping around the 3 point line and very little ball screens. Our back door cuts are really non existent as we camp. There is no crispness to our offense. Pass and Cut, penetrate the elbows, dribble with a purpose, (if you can not get anywhere with 2 dribbles in the half court then give the rock up. Let's get the ball up the floor and pass to the guy ahead of you. The number one rule should with this team should be about transition. We have to be the fastest team free throw line to free throw line. Defense to offense and offense to defense. Fast break up the side line, big guys fill the lane. Reverse the basketball with a high ball screen and penetrate. Mayer as a 4 works well in this set up. He can slip the ball screen for a 3 at the head of the key. Mayer should be setting more ball screens if he is our best 3 point shooter. Our offense is not getting much in the way of mismatches and not forcing the defense to cave thru penetration which would allow for more wide open 3's. Skyy has the game to make all this work. Epps has the game to make this work.
Defense We need a couple of schemes in my opinion. Switching is fine sometimes. The other team knows what match ups they want so if all you do is switch they eventually have the ball in the hands of the guy they want to shoot. How about no switching sometime? How about switching defensive scheme when you come out of a time out.
For me the mark of a good team and coach is execution out of the time out. Do the players know and deliver out of a time out? We seem to have no adjustment in this area. BU can not do it all. The players have got to 'wanna'. Everyone has to do their part. The purpose is lost right now on the little things which contribute in a big way. I think back to one of the close games and Dainja was after a loose ball and dove our a player to go to the floor to secure a loose ball. My thoughts at the time were 'holy smoke' Brad just has a way of instilling a mentality of a warrior. We are lost on this right now and that has to be frustrating for him with no one to show leadership in this area.
We have a long way to go to get where we all want to be. The process will win the day as we have talent. Hard work beats talent when talent does not work hard. BU will get this team where it needs to be and I hope it is in time to make this a rewarding season beyond UCLA and Texas.
Defense We need a couple of schemes in my opinion. Switching is fine sometimes. The other team knows what match ups they want so if all you do is switch they eventually have the ball in the hands of the guy they want to shoot. How about no switching sometime? How about switching defensive scheme when you come out of a time out.
For me the mark of a good team and coach is execution out of the time out. Do the players know and deliver out of a time out? We seem to have no adjustment in this area. BU can not do it all. The players have got to 'wanna'. Everyone has to do their part. The purpose is lost right now on the little things which contribute in a big way. I think back to one of the close games and Dainja was after a loose ball and dove our a player to go to the floor to secure a loose ball. My thoughts at the time were 'holy smoke' Brad just has a way of instilling a mentality of a warrior. We are lost on this right now and that has to be frustrating for him with no one to show leadership in this area.
We have a long way to go to get where we all want to be. The process will win the day as we have talent. Hard work beats talent when talent does not work hard. BU will get this team where it needs to be and I hope it is in time to make this a rewarding season beyond UCLA and Texas.
Then bench them. I have no problem with that. We aren't winning we with them so what's the worst without them?
And, in both the Texas and UCLA games we had a guy go unconscious from deep, hitting tough contested 3's. TSJ vs UCLA and Mayer vs Texas.
The shot quality wasn't better, we just made them. I've been long saying that the offense is stagnant and doesn't create good looks. I'm not sure what they are supposed to be running, but they mostly stand around.
exactly! the numbers explain it simply - live or die by the 3 pt shot.
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