Name, Image, Likeness Rule

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IlliniKat91

Chicago, IL
I'd be surprised if they don't have a printing company that is just makes them on demand. I, as small business, have this option with a small local printing company.
I work at a school and we have a partnership with a local printer for spirit wear. They'll print on demand, but it'll cost. We can absorb that as a large district. I doubt these kids have that kind of seed money to start.
 
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I work at a school and we have a partnership with a local printer for spirit wear. They'll print on demand, but it'll cost. We can absorb that as a large district. I doubt these kids have that kind of seed money to start.
Everyone but Trent and DMW have signed deals with a regional (but started here) printer/merch company.
 
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A new research study dropped today from the American Psychological Association regarding identity and attitudes toward paying college athletes. Not sure if this fully fits in the NIL thread, but alas, it's an interesting read.

Citation​

Sargent, M. J. (2022). Skin in the game: Race, ingroup identification, and attitudes toward paying college athletes. Cultural Diversity and Ethnic Minority Psychology. Advance online publication. https://doi.org/10.1037/cdp0000520


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Objectives: The present studies examined two dimensions of racial ingroup identification, using them as predictors of Black and White Americans’ attitudes toward paying college athletes. Following Leach et al. (2008), the present work distinguished between ingroup self-investment and ingroup self-definition. The central prediction was that respondent race and self-investment would interact in predicting compensation support. Method: In three studies (N = 352, N = 476, & N = 562), U.S. residents who were 18 or older and either Black or White completed an online survey in which they completed a self-report measure of racial identification, as well as reporting their opinion of paying college athletes. Results: The results supported the prediction, demonstrating that Black respondents’ support was higher than that for Whites, but this was especially the case at high levels of self-investment. The third study suggests that these effects were driven by respondents who believed that Black athletes made up a larger percentage of the pool of likely beneficiaries of compensation. Ingroup self-definition played no role as a moderator. Conclusions: Broadly speaking, it may be that, for policies whose likely beneficiaries are disproportionately Black, stronger racial self-investment serves to widen racial divides in support. (PsycInfo Database Record (c) 2022 APA, all rights reserved)
 
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illini80

Forgottonia
This is version 2.0 of the ILL-NIL effort from a few months back. Craig McDonald was the guy behind that and from what I understand he and DiSanto are the driving force here. Same basic concept with a little more organization behind it. Supposed to be a more in depth interview on WDWS Saturday Sportsline tomorrow.
 
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illini80

Forgottonia
This is version 2.0 of the ILL-NIL effort from a few months back. Craig McDonald was the guy behind that and from what I understand he and DiSanto are the driving force here. Same basic concept with a little more organization behind it. Supposed to be a more in depth interview on WDWS Saturday Sportsline tomorrow.
Anyone who is interested in how the process works should give a listen. Starts at about 16:10

 
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Are there any estimates on how much Kofi earns off of NIL? Looking at the Big Ten he probably isn’t the top 3 or 4 Big Ten NBA prospect. Is it better for him to come back and be the face of college basketball or go pro?
 
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Are there any estimates on how much Kofi earns off of NIL? Looking at the Big Ten he probably isn’t the top 3 or 4 Big Ten NBA prospect. Is it better for him to come back and be the face of college basketball or go pro?
Not sure but he just had a giveaway on his instagram so hopefully he secured a nice bag for that.
 
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Lot's of interesting questions about scenarios for this.

1. How do they make a commitment to a recruit? Is it in writing? Is it legally binding?
2. How is it paid out? What if there is an injury ending the career? What if they transfer?
3. How financially backed are all the commitments? Do they have money in hand before making commitments? What if the organization folds? Who policies the organization for fraud and improper use or management of funds?

Questions not just for Illinois but all of the various groups that are surely being put together. (Have not followed this closely before so maybe some of these issues have already been raised and discussed)
 
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illini80

Forgottonia
Lot's of interesting questions about scenarios for this.

1. How do they make a commitment to a recruit? Is it in writing? Is it legally binding?
2. How is it paid out? What if there is an injury ending the career? What if they transfer?
3. How financially backed are all the commitments? Do they have money in hand before making commitments? What if the organization folds? Who policies the organization for fraud and improper use or management of funds?

Questions not just for Illinois but all of the various groups that are surely being put together. (Have not followed this closely before so maybe some of these issues have already been raised and discussed)
Many of these were answered in the podcast above.
 
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illini80

Forgottonia
It’s clearly true and I believe as time goes on, the schools with the most resources will learn how to use them even more effectively. I don’t see how anything changes that. I can’t see any scenario where a salary cap works. The money just goes back under the table then. Unless collegiate athletics gets the same anti-trust protections that professional sports have, it’s been established that the players have the right to earn market rates like everyone else. My guess is over time the NIL rules get looser because we already know they are being flaunted with no repercussions.
 
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sacraig

The desert
Oh no, players will be able to be compensated for the risks they take and dollars they generate. They'll even have some freedom in selecting the best deal for themselves. What an awful world we are entering.

/s

MLB has no salary cap. The Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, Angels and Mets generally outspend everyone, sometimes by a country mile. Yet you don't see them winning everything.

Coaching and organizations matter.
 
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Does NIL somewhat level the playing field? Are there any players from years past that possibly received some sort of "extra benefit" from a school that was willing to play in the gray area that would have chosen a different school if some sort of income could have been offered? Some athletes make decisions based on what is best for their family regardless if it choosing a certain $chool or early entry to the draft. If an athlete could make say, $20,000-$50,000 on NIL and stay closer to family would that sway their decision vs. playing for a $chool that previously offered impermissible benefits?
 
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sacraig

The desert
Does NIL somewhat level the playing field? Are there any players from years past that possibly received some sort of "extra benefit" from a school that was willing to play in the gray area that would have chosen a different school if some sort of income could have been offered? Some athletes make decisions based on what is best for their family regardless if it choosing a certain $chool or early entry to the draft. If an athlete could make say, $20,000-$50,000 on NIL and stay closer to family would that sway their decision vs. playing for a $chool that previously offered impermissible benefits?
This is how I see it. There have always been schools with big boosters and a willingness to flaunt rules. The new paradigm clears more compliant or otherwise risk averse programs to spend more openly. I think it simply lets more teams into the game that some have been playing for a long time.
 
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Oh no, players will be able to be compensated for the risks they take and dollars they generate. They'll even have some freedom in selecting the best deal for themselves. What an awful world we are entering.

/s

MLB has no salary cap. The Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, Angels and Mets generally outspend everyone, sometimes by a country mile. Yet you don't see them winning everything.

Coaching and organizations matter.
True, but the teams that exceed a certain salary level are required to pay a luxury tax...not sure without looking it up just what the amounts are and what it amounts to....would be kind of hard to translate that to the collegiate level....I agree that the more restrictions that are placed on the NIL with players it will result in more under the table type transactions.....Having a solid Athletic Administration and a good coaching staff and a good culture around the entire athletic program makes a huge difference in how successful programs are or will become
 
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Does NIL somewhat level the playing field? Are there any players from years past that possibly received some sort of "extra benefit" from a school that was willing to play in the gray area that would have chosen a different school if some sort of income could have been offered? Some athletes make decisions based on what is best for their family regardless if it choosing a certain $chool or early entry to the draft. If an athlete could make say, $20,000-$50,000 on NIL and stay closer to family would that sway their decision vs. playing for a $chool that previously offered impermissible benefits?
Yes, potentially. Also potential that the schools that used to play in the gray area are now able to do it more openly and with more ridiculous NIL deals than other schools can manage.

It definitely benefits teams with bigger fanbases, and benefits the best player on a team the most.
 
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sacraig

The desert
True, but the teams that exceed a certain salary level are required to pay a luxury tax...not sure without looking it up just what the amounts are and what it amounts to....would be kind of hard to translate that to the collegiate level....I agree that the more restrictions that are placed on the NIL with players it will result in more under the table type transactions.....Having a solid Athletic Administration and a good coaching staff and a good culture around the entire athletic program makes a huge difference in how successful programs are or will become
I agree there will be teething problems and it will probably warrant some careful management. I think we will all agree it's unlikely the NCAA will do that well.

But I still see this as massive net positive. For the student athletes and for us specifically.
 
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