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Clippers and Nets are where NBA dreams go to die
Eh, last top 5 pick for the Clippers made 6 all star games in his NBA career. Nets have done alright despite not drafting in the lottery since 2010 until 2025. Got an all-star in Jarrett Allen at #22 in 2017 and both teams drafted several players who have had long productive NBA careers. Not sure what you expect from teams consistently drafting in the 20s and high teens.
 
#102      
Bulls get the easiest pick in the draft. Just take whoever falls to you.

Between the lottery, the Portland pick conveying, and replacing AKME with a reputed top scout, the prospects of this draft for the Bulls have improved to an astonishing degree in the past two months.

This is a golden opportunity to turn the ship around.

As for Keaton Wagler, to be totally honest I'd kinda rather he fall to a team that wants to use him on-ball rather than be shoehorned next to a ball-dominant player. I just think being able to orchestrate is better for his development.
 
#103      
Possibly a franchise changing draw of luck from the Bulls today.

Four in this draft is better than one in past ones.
Heck, I'd say the top 8 in this draft would have gone 1 in 2024 (though everyone sees Castle should have gone 1 now).
 
#104      
This would be what I think would be a slam-dunk draft by the Bulls FO:

1. Hope the top 3 drafters are wowed by Peterson and Wilson's athleticism, so Boozer falls to them at 4.
2. Use what other capital you have to try to get a second pick in the top 8.
3. Use that pick to draft one of the 4 tier 2 lead guards (Wagler, Acuff, Flemmings, Burries)
4. Suddenly be a fun young team to watch
 
#105      
None of them. Falling to the Hawks, Mavs, Warriors or Thunder would be the best scenario for him. He'll make a little less upfront, but he'll be properly developed and will make the money up, in spades, on the back end.

Unfortunately, he's going to get stuck in one of those three dumpster fires, but maybe his lack of being ready to play now will allow him to drop into a winning situation. Joining Flagg would be the most ideal spot, being with Kerr would be the second best and being anywhere remotely close to OKC would be fantastic. First class organizations with first class winners.
He's going to play alot as a rook (even if it's a bench role). Truth is, you're not going to be a top 5 pick in this loaded a draft if GM's think you can't even get on the court.
 
#106      
As for Keaton Wagler, to be totally honest I'd kinda rather he fall to a team that wants to use him on-ball rather than be shoehorned next to a ball-dominant player. I just think being able to orchestrate is better for his development.
Would the Clippers not use him on-ball? I don't think they're all-in on Garland. If they take Keaton with #5, they're going to give him opportunities. Could see a scenario where if Keaton does well early on they use Garland as a trade chip.
 
#107      
This would be what I think would be a slam-dunk draft by the Bulls FO:

1. Hope the top 3 drafters are wowed by Peterson and Wilson's athleticism, so Boozer falls to them at 4.
2. Use what other capital you have to try to get a second pick in the top 8.
3. Use that pick to draft one of the 4 tier 2 lead guards (Wagler, Acuff, Flemmings, Burries)
4. Suddenly be a fun young team to watch
That would be amazing, but I'm not sure the Bulls have enough capital to pull that off. Everyone is looking at those 5-8 picks as being very valuable. Like top 3 pick in a typical draft, maybe even better than that. How much would it take? 3 firsts? The #15 pick in this draft, 2027 first round, 2029 first round? Would that even get it done? I'm not sure.
 
#108      
Stats comparison of the "Big 4" point guards:

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What stands out with Wagler is that OREB%.
 
#110      
Bulls get the easiest pick in the draft. Just take whoever falls to you.

Between the lottery, the Portland pick conveying, and replacing AKME with a reputed top scout, the prospects of this draft for the Bulls have improved to an astonishing degree in the past two months.

This is a golden opportunity to turn the ship around.

As for Keaton Wagler, to be totally honest I'd kinda rather he fall to a team that wants to use him on-ball rather than be shoehorned next to a ball-dominant player. I just think being able to orchestrate is better for his development.
BG not necessarily tied to Giddey. Think that Wagler would get plenty of opportunity to show his orchestration skills.
 
#112      
close to 0 bc top 4 is consensus. i do think wagler will be top 3 player in the draft but gms dont like to make risky moves. he will gone by 6. 5 most likely.
Pretty much what I was thinking. Guess there’s always a remote chance given Wagler is “qualified” and has Illini ties, but it does feel like the top 4 are locked in except for the specific order.
 
#113      
None of them. Falling to the Hawks, Mavs, Warriors or Thunder would be the best scenario for him. He'll make a little less upfront, but he'll be properly developed and will make the money up, in spades, on the back end.

Unfortunately, he's going to get stuck in one of those three dumpster fires, but maybe his lack of being ready to play now will allow him to drop into a winning situation. Joining Flagg would be the most ideal spot, being with Kerr would be the second best and being anywhere remotely close to OKC would be fantastic. First class organizations with first class winners.
So, Keaton can still drop out, right? 😄
 
#114      
Stats comparison of the "Big 4" point guards:

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What stands out with Wagler is that OREB%.
His "Hakeem Pct" stat is interesting as well. This stat measures defensive disruption (the percentage a possession ends with a steal or a block by the player).

This is surprising considering he played on the team that defensively had the lowest turnover and steal % in all of D-1 college basketball.

I also felt obliged to comment on this one since I had to Google what it was (actually Google wouldn't even come up with anything, I had to look this one up with ChatGPT).
 
#115      
Latest ESPN mock draft (post-lottery) has Bulls taking Caleb Wilson at #4 and Wagler going to the Clippers at #5. They also have Kentucky C Jayden Quaintance, who only played 4 games this season, going to Chicago at #15. They also have Boswell going to the Bulls late in the 2nd round.
That would be a typical pick for the Bulls @15 if true...hopefully doesn't happen...
 
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#118      
That would be a typical pick for the Bulls @15 if true...hopefully doesn't happen...
Still only 18 years old. Huge upside. Gotta be very confident with the medicals though.

You kinda figure he's unlikely to go at 15, either doctors will like what they see and he goes higher or they don't like what they see and he falls.

BG not necessarily tied to Giddey. Think that Wagler would get plenty of opportunity to show his orchestration skills.
The Bulls had better not overcomplicate just taking whoever of the clear top 4 falls to them.
 
#119      
The Bulls have the easiest pick in the top 5. Just wait for whichever of the top 4 falls to you and call their name.

The only way it gets even remotely complicated is if one of the top 3 makes an incredibly stupid pick and you get to choose from 2 of the top 4.
 
#120      
That would be a typical pick for the Bulls @15 if true...hopefully doesn't happen...
He was really good as a 17-year-old freshman (7.9 rebounds and 2.6 blocks per game...at 17 years old), and even with the injury could probably have gone top-10 in the 2025 draft if it wasn't for the fact he was too young to be eligible. Makes a lot more sense for that #15 pick for the Bulls, a team that is not in any likely scenario competing for anything next season, to take a swing on a young high upside guy like Quaintance than to go for something safe.
 
#121      
Yes for one year 1991 that was Durham last year on Bulls radio I think
Wow! Just that one year? I'm pretty sure I never saw his playing days. When I was a kid, Artis Gilmore was my favorite player on the Bulls.
 
#123      
BG not necessarily tied to Giddey. Think that Wagler would get plenty of opportunity to show his orchestration skills.
Tied to Giddey or no, PG is probably the position at which they have the most depth and talent. There is absolutely no need for them to over-think it. Take whichever of the top 4 are left, and worry about what you want at 15 based on complimenting whichever elite prospect just landed in your lap.
 
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