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What specifically about them concerns you?

Efficiency-wise the closest team we've played to VCU this season was Indiana (very similar in overall ranking, offensive efficiency, and defensive efficiency). We won by 20. The next closest team is Mizzou. We won by 43.

Edit - This got me thinking about the question of what kind of teams BU loses to in the Tournament. The thing is, for all the talk about Brad's failings in March, he doesn't lose to bad teams. Here are the final KP rankings of the teams he's lost to each year:

2025: Kentucky - #16 (ours #17)
2024: UConn - #1 (ours #10)
2023: Arkansas - #23 (ours #35)
2022: Houston - #2 (ours #20)
2021: Loyola - #10 (ours #4)

Every single year it took a top-25 team to knock us out, 4/5 years a #16 team (i.e. a team that would expect to make the S16), and 3/5 years it took a top 10 team to knock us out.

The only one where we ended up higher than the team that beat us was 2021, and that was still a top 10 team.

There's been a lot of talk of the tournament prowess of Nate Oats. Here's the best teams he beat on his runs to the Final Four and Elite Eight:

2025 (Elite Eight) - Saint Mary's (#25)
2024 (Final Four) - UNC (#9)

I mean, those are pretty good, and that UNC win was good. But what was the best team BU beat on his 2024 Elite Eight run? #8 Iowa State. So just as good a victory, if not a little better. But also think about that. As a 4-seed Alabama got a vastly overrated 1-seed in the Sweet Sixteen, and we as a 3-seed got arguably a tougher opponent. Then in the next round, Alabama lucked out and got to face 6-seed and #19 KP Clemson in the Elite Eight, while we had eventual champion UConn (who also comfortably beat Alabama in the Final Four).

I think in the Tournament the Champion is the Champion. Every other team's destiny depends in equal parts on how the rest of the draw unfolds and on their own performance.
VCU is hot right now. That’s really all. Honestly, they may be nothing. Maybe just a fear of mine.
 
#202      
This might have already been said because I'm coming into this thread now: Illinois getting a 3-seed with the 6-seed missing their best player is a better scenario than most of the 2-seed second-round matchups.
 
#203      
This might have already been said because I'm coming into this thread now: Illinois getting a 3-seed with the 6-seed missing their best player is a better scenario than most of the 2-seed second-round matchups.
Not to mention we’ve got the highest spread of any 3 seed as of today.

Really, no excuses to not make the S16 with this draw.

That being said, is Houston also makes it out of the opening weekend it’ll arguably the hardest 3/2 draw in the S16.
 
#204      
VCU is hot right now. That’s really all. Honestly, they may be nothing. Maybe just a fear of mine.
They are definitely the hottest team in the A-10. They are 11-1 since the beginning of February. Here's their games in that stretch (wins green, losses red):

@Fordham (#166 KP)
Dayton (#78)
@La Salle (#233)
@Richmon (#161)
George Washington (#85)

@Saint Louis (#41)
Fordham (#166)
George Mason (#102)
@Dayton (#78)
Duquesne (#128)
Saint Joseph's (#119)
Dayton (#78)


So yeah, 11-1 is great and all, but look at the opponents they were facing! I feel like we're having the Miami (OH) discussion again. With that schedule, we would have gone 12-0 playing poorly. In that stretch the best team VCU played was St. Louis, who is outside the top 40 in KP and would easily be our worst loss on the season (also, in that same Feb 1 to now stretch, Torvik has SLU as the #109 team in the country, so performing quite poorly at the time VCU faced them).

You do have a point in that Torvik has them as the #29 team in that time period. But Torvik also has us as the #5 team in the same time period.

That's why I'm not particularly worried about VCU. We *should* win that game, even in our recent run of form. Now, I get it, in a single elimination tournament anything can happen. Anything. We've seen 16-seeds beat 1-seeds. So maybe Michigan should fear their matchup with Howard, a team that is 12-1 since January 31 and has won 9 straight.
 
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They are definitely the hottest team in the A-10. They are 11-1 since the beginning of February. Here's their games in that stretch (wins green, losses red):

@Fordham (#166 KP)
Dayton (#78)
@La Salle (#233)
@Richmon (#161)
George Washington (#85)

@Saint Louis (#41)
Fordham (#166)
George Mason (#102)
@Dayton (#78)
Duquesne (#128)
Saint Joseph's (#119)
Dayton (#78)


So yeah, 11-1 is great and all, but look at the opponents they were facing! I feel like we're having the Miami (OH) discussion again. With that schedule, we would have gone 12-0 playing poorly. In that stretch the best team VCU played was St. Louis, who is outside the top 40 in KP and would easily be our worst loss on the season (also, in that same Feb 1 to now stretch, Torvik has SLU as the #109 team in the country, so performing quite poorly at the time VCU faced them).

You do have a point in that Torvik has them as the #29 team in that time period. But Torvik also has us as the #5 team in the same time period.

That's why I'm not particularly worried about VCU. We *should* win that game, even in our recent run of form. Now, I get it, in a single elimination tournament anything can happen. Anything. We've seen 16-seeds beat 1-seeds. So maybe Michigan should fear their matchup with Howard, a team that is 12-1 since January 31 and has won 9 straight.
When you look at the automatic qualifiers across the non-power conferences, almost all of them are coming into the tourney "blazing hot" with very long winning streak or on a last 10 of 9-1 or better. That should not come as a surprise, and after you look at who they play, it explains why they so very rarely upset power conference teams in the tourney even with extended win streaks coming into the tournament.

Power conference schools tend to cannibalize from within in February and March, but it makes them tougher come tourney time.
 
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This might have already been said because I'm coming into this thread now: Illinois getting a 3-seed with the 6-seed missing their best player is a better scenario than most of the 2-seed second-round matchups.
Indeed. Fanduel's odds to reach the S16:

1 Arizona 87.6%
2 Michigan 86.5%
3 Duke 83.4%
4 Florida 78.3%
5 Houston 76.8%
6 Illinois 76.1%
7 Iowa State 75.1%
8 Purdue 72.6%
9 Connecticut 64.2%
10 Gonzaga 62.0%
11 Michigan State 61.7%
12 Arkansas 56.1%
13 Vanderbilt 52.2%
14 Virginia 52.2%
 
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ESPN:


5. Keaton Wagler

Wagler is one of the season's best stories, exiting high school as an under-the-radar recruit before transforming himself into an All-American and projected NBA draft lottery pick in only one season. The star freshman has had some of the best individual performances of any player in college basketball this season, including his 46-point outing at Purdue. Averaging 17.9 points and 4.4 assists this season, Wagler needs to regain some momentum in the tournament -- he hasn't shot 50% from the field in a game since Feb. 10. -- Borzello
 
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I'm really struggling to see the Duke vision with these injuries. The problem is UCONN looks like the weakest 2 at the moment, and while MSU is tough do they really have the offense needed to make the final four?
 
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I'm really struggling to see the Duke vision with these injuries. The problem is UCONN looks like the weakest 2 at the moment, and while MSU is tough do they really have the offense needed to make the final four?
I agree with what you're saying and I also keep asking myself, can ILL really keep it together long enough for the final 4? Obviously, we all hope so, but I'm so tired of the heart break! lol
 
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Looking for some advice. Since I live in Greenville I thought about going to the games but I am too old to got to a 9:30 game here when I get up and in to the office by 6:30am. Thinking of taking my wife to the Saturday games which likely to be Duke/OSU and Illinois/Carolina.

Would I have the best shot to get the cheapest tickets if I search 1-3 hours before game time? I don't ever attend anything other than concerts and we buy those tickets way in advance.

Thanks!
 
#217      
They are definitely the hottest team in the A-10. They are 11-1 since the beginning of February. Here's their games in that stretch (wins green, losses red):

@Fordham (#166 KP)
Dayton (#78)
@La Salle (#233)
@Richmon (#161)
George Washington (#85)

@Saint Louis (#41)
Fordham (#166)
George Mason (#102)
@Dayton (#78)
Duquesne (#128)
Saint Joseph's (#119)
Dayton (#78)


So yeah, 11-1 is great and all, but look at the opponents they were facing! I feel like we're having the Miami (OH) discussion again. With that schedule, we would have gone 12-0 playing poorly. In that stretch the best team VCU played was St. Louis, who is outside the top 40 in KP and would easily be our worst loss on the season (also, in that same Feb 1 to now stretch, Torvik has SLU as the #109 team in the country, so performing quite poorly at the time VCU faced them).

You do have a point in that Torvik has them as the #29 team in that time period. But Torvik also has us as the #5 team in the same time period.

That's why I'm not particularly worried about VCU. We *should* win that game, even in our recent run of form. Now, I get it, in a single elimination tournament anything can happen. Anything. We've seen 16-seeds beat 1-seeds. So maybe Michigan should fear their matchup with Howard, a team that is 12-1 since January 31 and has won 9 straight.
I appreciate this. Thanks!
 
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I'm really struggling to see the Duke vision with these injuries. The problem is UCONN looks like the weakest 2 at the moment, and while MSU is tough do they really have the offense needed to make the final four?
Izzo has certainly done more with less in the past. Last year, they made an Elite 8 with an offense ranked 25th. In 2010, he made it to the Final Four with the 33rd ranked offense.

Not including COVID, the last time he missed the tournament was his first year at MSU, 1997. Say what you will about the guy (and I will say it) but if my counting is right, in that time frame, he's made it to 16 Sweet 16's, 10 Elite 8's, and 8 Final Fours. That's a 57% hit rate on making a Sweet 16 since the guy took over at MSU.
 
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Izzo has certainly done more with less in the past. Last year, they made an Elite 8 with an offense ranked 25th. In 2010, he made it to the Final Four with the 33rd ranked offense.

Not including COVID, the last time he missed the tournament was his first year at MSU, 1997. Say what you will about the guy (and I will say it) but if my counting is right, in that time frame, he's made it to 16 Sweet 16's, 10 Elite 8's, and 8 Final Fours. That's a 57% hit rate on making a Sweet 16 since the guy took over at MSU.

No doubt. They’re a 3-seed. I’d be a fool to be stunned. Plus it looks like they again ended up with quite a nice draw.

But last year they were also 4th on defense, and that’s dipped a bit.

They’d be playing Duke in the elite 8, but I think I’d take MSU over UConn right now.
 
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Indeed. Fanduel's odds to reach the S16:

1 Arizona 87.6%
2 Michigan 86.5%
3 Duke 83.4%
4 Florida 78.3%
5 Houston 76.8%
6 Illinois 76.1%
7 Iowa State 75.1%
8 Purdue 72.6%
9 Connecticut 64.2%
10 Gonzaga 62.0%
11 Michigan State 61.7%
12 Arkansas 56.1%
13 Vanderbilt 52.2%
14 Virginia 52.2%
We've all been staring at enough numbers. This deserves a chart, and I can show the other rounds also. The probabilities are still based on Fanduel futures, and I've sorted it by seed, then by S16 odds

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