NIL Thread (Name, Image, Likeness Rule)

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illini80

Forgottonia
Sorry if this info has been posted, I don't keep current on this topic but thought this was interesting...

Supreme Court ruling clears path for Mizzou to pay athletes for good grades

Illinois is expected to do the same as was announced a few weeks back. I’m not finding a link off hand. Iowa and Wisconsin have said they expect to do the same, but I don’t know if it is “official”. I fully expect every B10 team to do likewise.
 
#152      
Hope this isn't too off-topic, as it is about college football, but this article on NIL and the transfer portal has some really compelling thoughts in it:


Most notably...there is a shift in power in college athletics that is unprecedented and which will have many unintended consequences (ex, it could set back women's sports due to revenue disparities). Also, found it interesting that author says many college athletes will have an incentive *not* to turn pro, as they will likely have more money-making opportunities at the collegiate level.
 
#158      

Epsilon

M tipping over
Pdx
#159      

Epsilon

M tipping over
Pdx
Even if it is against their rules, NCAA ain't gonna do sh*t. They're pretty much a toothless organization now.
I was wondering how many posts it was going to take for this point to be mentioned. You far exceeded my expectations on it being the 1st response.
 
#161      
Whatever your opinion is of this law or NIL, you certainly have to give credit to Whitman for getting sh*% done. He is not going to just let the world steamroll him or the University. He is the one wearing the orange vest in the driver seat. Better get on board or out of the way, cuz whatever he’s got planned - it’s gonna happen.
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#163      

Joel Goodson

dawgville
Whatever your opinion is of this law or NIL, you certainly have to give credit to Whitman for getting sh*% done. He is not going to just let the world steamroll him or the University. He is the one wearing the orange vest in the driver seat. Better get on board or out of the way, cuz whatever he’s got planned - it’s gonna happen.

Agreed. It seems that the thrust of this legislation is control. Far better for an enlightened AD to have more control over NIL stuff than not.
 
#164      

sacraig

The desert
Saban is just pissed that he now has competition for buying players now that NIL is in place.
The disdain I have for Saban has only grown in recent years when it has become clear that he strongly favors a status quo where he maintains absolute power and can go shill for insurance companies on TV without the athletes having any rights.
 
#165      

Epsilon

M tipping over
Pdx
Agreed. It seems that the thrust of this legislation is control. Far better for an enlightened AD to have more control over NIL stuff than not.
Indeed. But even just pausing for a moment, when in the history of Illinois AD’s have we ever had one that clearly had an impact on the state’s legislature? Perhaps whoever is in charge at NU benefits too and perhaps this was co-sponsored, but we are probably the two schools that benefit the most (and likely us more). I can’t imagine too many other sources for this initiative. Carving a path to Springfield takes a seriously concerted and coordinated effort.
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#166      

sacraig

The desert
Indeed. But even just pausing for a moment, when in the history of Illinois AD’s have we ever had one that clearly had an impact on the state’s legislature? Perhaps whoever is in charge at NU benefits too and perhaps this was co-sponsored, but we are probably the two schools that benefit the most (and likely us more). I can’t imagine too many other sources for this initiative. Carving a path to Springfield takes a seriously concerted and coordinated effort.
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Universities (especially large public ones) typically have well-oiled lobbying teams, especially for lobbying their own state governments that control large chunks of their budgets. There's a pretty good chance the university played a hefty role in selling this and Whitman probably has his fingerprints on it to some degree. But how directly he was involved likely depends on which legislatures were its champions. Some may be more receptive to the athletic argument, others more about fairness to the students.
 
#167      

Joel Goodson

dawgville
The disdain I have for Saban has only grown in recent years when it has become clear that he strongly favors a status quo where he maintains absolute power and can go shill for insurance companies on TV without the athletes having any rights.

Saban's hypocrisy is monumental. FWLIW, that's not surprising.
 
#171      

CoalCity

St Paul, MN
Universities (especially large public ones) typically have well-oiled lobbying teams, especially for lobbying their own state governments that control large chunks of their budgets. There's a pretty good chance the university played a hefty role in selling this and Whitman probably has his fingerprints on it to some degree. But how directly he was involved likely depends on which legislatures were its champions. Some may be more receptive to the athletic argument, others more about fairness to the students.
Sponsor for this was Rep Kam Bucker from Chicago, who also just happened to play college football at illinois and is reportedly close friends with Whitman.
 
#173      
As long as the school doesn’t promise a recruit x amount if you play here I think you are within the vague NCAA guidelines

What will be interesting is when schools say I can’t say how much you will make but this is how much our average football/basketball player make Also we have helped our superstars make this much

It is part of recruiting. Just as much as other tangible things like education location history etc
 
#174      

Epsilon

M tipping over
Pdx
As long as the school doesn’t promise a recruit x amount if you play here I think you are within the vague NCAA guidelines

What will be interesting is when schools say I can’t say how much you will make but this is how much our average football/basketball player make Also we have helped our superstars make this much

It is part of recruiting. Just as much as other tangible things like education location history etc
I think removing the language barring a school from being able to arrange these NIL deals literally puts the schools in the driver seat. I think at this point, the only thing a school can’t do is actually pay a salary or any monies directly from school accounts.