Did Northwestern basketball run off Johnnie Vassar?
tl;dr but did see that Kipper Nichols makes an appearance in the story.
tl;dr but did see that Kipper Nichols makes an appearance in the story.
Northwestern Johnnie Vassar story
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mattcoldagelli
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Yikes, that's a real bad look for NU.
BirdDog9048
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- Chicago, IL
Wow, that's some crazy stuff. Talk about some easy material to use when recruiting against Northwestern.
Agree.
Probably reasonable to assume that similar stories play out nation-wide. Sad, but true.
mattcoldagelli
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Oh, absolutely. How bizarre is it that Northwestern, of all places, is where it gets put under the microscope?
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Like 100's of times every year. Creaning is not isolated to IU.
For sure, but I wonder what they called it back in 1941? Wonder if fans back then referred to another coach's name when teams did it.
Someone send that to Mike and Mike, I'd love to here Greenbergs take...
Just shows how cut throat the business is, to what extent a staff may go. Collins first class and a player gets ran off?
Didn't Will Kiersky the publisher of ViceSports go to NW?? If so, props for taking on your alma mater.
SampsonRelpenk
- Edwardsville, IL
It looks like the writer did too. That takes some stones.
MainelyIllini
- uh, Maine
This is just an unfortunate reality of college athletics. I'd love to see changes happen so that the athletes don't get treated this way, but then I realize that the NCAA has absolutely no incentive to change anything.
ChazzReinhold
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Falsifying time cards to revoke his athletic scholarship is a little more than creaning.
To the extent of forging time cards to try to prove the kid was failing to live up to his internship obligations so that they can revoke his athletic scholarship?
I really hope that's an outside case and not something where "similar" things are happening nationwide.
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Greenstein, of all people, actually wrote about this last fall.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...wsuit-basketball-spt-1116-20161115-story.html
TownieMatt
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Running players off happens everywhere, including Illinois. No one wants to talk about it, as the story mentions, Gary Parrish calls this CBB's dirty little secret.
What's different here are the lengths NU went through to get him off scholarship. Including offering him cash, more or less threatening him, trying to coerce him into signing blank forms, and apparently falsifying documents.
What's different here are the lengths NU went through to get him off scholarship. Including offering him cash, more or less threatening him, trying to coerce him into signing blank forms, and apparently falsifying documents.
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And again today because of the piece in Vice. Hate giving hat tips to NU grads, but Medill does stress journalism.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...-vassar-lawsuit-spt-0330-20170329-column.html
TownieMatt
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Are you sure??
100%. Unfortunately.
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This is something I don't think groce gets enough credit for. He chose to do things the right way instead of taking the easy way out to save his job. Won't say any names but if he had run off a player or two in order to bring in some higher potential guys the last couple years or if he had swept nunn's incident under the rug there is a strong chance he is still our coach with a nice extension to boot. Thank you john groce and I hope you find success wherever you land.
TownieMatt
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Uhhhhh.... I guess we're just forgetting about all the guys that did transfer out during Groce's tenure (Shaw, Langford, Henry, Colbert, Cosby). And the number of recruits we consistently went after despite not having scholarships at the ready (Remember the whole "We can count" thing?).
We are not holier than thou.
And I'm guessing if it were up to Groce, Nunn would have stayed.
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