Penn State 90, Illinois 89 Postgame
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Posted my thoughts on that here ...
Penn State 90, Illinois 89 Postgame
Doesn’t even matter whether or not they hung on. It’s clear these guys can’t stop ANYBODY. Oh but THIS TIME they are gonna take a wake up call, right? It’s over, guys. Second round. Again. Effing again. What sucks is we have such a cheat code right now in TSJ. So frustrating.
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The history books will show the ceiling of the underwood regime was reached just prior to tip against Loyola in 2021. He is just not good I. Game at adjustments or keeping his teams focused for 40 minutes. Will never be a factor in March.
And he's averaging 3 ppg on a 16-11 (8-8) team. He isn't the missing piece to carry this team on his back to the National Championship, sorry.
The loss sucks. Absolutely horrible. But, Brock Harding is not an upgrade over literally any of our rotation players.
Yes - but Goode was 3 for 5 on threes for the game so he was at least 3 for 4 before this. I would need to watch the replay but I didn’t think we were just dribbling the ball wasting time so I guess I can see why he shot it (he shouldn’t have in my opinion). He had been struggling but was shooting well tonight so I get him putting it up in a way even though it probably wasn’t the best decision. So many other decisions were worse during the game.
Okay, but honest question. What did Gentry devise that was so amazing? He wasn’t much good to us against Loyola…our most embarrassing loss…up until that time. (Yes, I think it’s reasonably fair to zero in on that one game…because that’s the kind of game nothing is working…you throw the kitchen sink at them.)
Yes, I think Gentry’s stuff fit our personal…and. it WAS efficient…But:
(Respectfully, I think finding ways to put Ayo in ball screens
isn’t really all that ground breaking; honestly.)
(Even Tyler has been successful being efficient… albeit in a very different way.)
With Gentry I remember a lot of ball screen heavy, quick hitters; usually out of a horns set…with maybe a little bit of deception getting into it here and there. That’s about all I remember. NBA sets but pretty simplistic. Am I wrong?
I’m not sure why we struggle so mightily on BLOBs and Press Break Offense. We struggled back then too…sometimes mightily. I don’t get it.
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GallopingGhost
- Denver, CO
It certainly stings but it was Ray Js decision in the end of the day. Getting someone else random or worse doesn’t necessarily mean we win those three
I guess O’Boyle does rule
Defense will not get fixed because bu is letting things play out . . . . .
Not adding a PG ... Inexcusable ... I agree ...
However ... Brock Harding was never going to be the answer ... There was a reason Iowa was his only P5 offer ...
Or I don't know, Brad could just play Ty, the PG he opted to go with this season. Hard to cast blame of our losses on not having a PG when we refuse to play our PG down the stretch. Maybe Brad would bench RayJ the final minutes of games also. That would make as much sense as what he's doing with Ty.
It’s a short trip from hero to goat. Last game Coleman could do no wrong and tonight ..…. Not so much.
Narrowly beat me to it. Aw, man. No pun originally intended.
But, seriously. Harding could literally score 20 against our lingerie defense and I would still laugh at the thought that he is the answer.
Unfortunately, Williams didn't work out. That dude would have been THE answer to exactly what this team needs. Plays smart, plays tough, defends at a high level - at least in the few games I have seen him - and is experienced. Like many have said, BU can definitely identify talent. He just struggles, IMO, to instill consistency and accountability.
I agree, winning in the NCAA tourney is all that matters.
NASchamp
- Atlanta
This. This. This. How does the staff watch these games back all season and not see the need to have better inbounds plays. Or the need to practice them more!! It’s been an issue for YEARS!!
Adjustments MUST be made. NOW. Yes, the last 40 seconds of this game were epically bad, but the team was only in the position to fumble away the game because their defense was so awful for the first 39 minutes. It's been this way for two months. FIX IT.
Goillinikobd
- Southeastern US
Lost power, internet, cell service with 50 seconds left. It just came back on 2 hours later. I guess I didn’t miss much
the ugly box score
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the ugly box score
Penn State 90-89 Illinois (Feb 21, 2024) Box Score - ESPN
Box score for the Penn State Nittany Lions vs. Illinois Fighting Illini NCAAM game from February 21, 2024 on ESPN. Includes all points, rebounds and steals stats.
The mental mistakes and situational basketball mistakes are far more frustrating than Hawkins missing Fts or TSJ getting picked.
Whats beyond frustrating is losing to MSU and PSU from taking dumb shots, lack of leadership, shot selection foolish play and coaching..Tonight why is Goode in up 10, taking that dumb 3? Why isn't Domask catching inbounds passes as our best FT shooter, most experienced player and leader. Why is Hawkins fouling from 25ft? Why if we want mature leaders does our coach allow off the court adolescent behavior? Get off social media, study and focus on what matters. Grow up and lead. Was Ayo or is Domask doing that crsp? Anyway I hope they all learn from this. Players that take dumb shots should be benched and player that act like teen agers off the court shouldn't start. Its time to be men. Off the court behavior us part of being a leader and effects the games. Domask, Harmon and Quincy act like men and Hawkins and others need to start to as well. Some players have discipline and get it and others dont. That is part of the problem. Mental errors and choices lost this game mostly from our coaches poor game management
Whats beyond frustrating is losing to MSU and PSU from taking dumb shots, lack of leadership, shot selection foolish play and coaching..Tonight why is Goode in up 10, taking that dumb 3? Why isn't Domask catching inbounds passes as our best FT shooter, most experienced player and leader. Why is Hawkins fouling from 25ft? Why if we want mature leaders does our coach allow off the court adolescent behavior? Get off social media, study and focus on what matters. Grow up and lead. Was Ayo or is Domask doing that crsp? Anyway I hope they all learn from this. Players that take dumb shots should be benched and player that act like teen agers off the court shouldn't start. Its time to be men. Off the court behavior us part of being a leader and effects the games. Domask, Harmon and Quincy act like men and Hawkins and others need to start to as well. Some players have discipline and get it and others dont. That is part of the problem. Mental errors and choices lost this game mostly from our coaches poor game management
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Anyone else think TSJ helping up a Penn State player during live play was weird, which then subsequently led to a turnover?
Illinois was acting like they had this one in the bag.
Illinois was acting like they had this one in the bag.
The players and coaching staff brains did the sameLost power, internet, cell service with 50 seconds left. It just came back on 2 hours later. I guess I didn’t miss much
the ugly box score
Penn State 90-89 Illinois (Feb 21, 2024) Box Score - ESPN
Box score for the Penn State Nittany Lions vs. Illinois Fighting Illini NCAAM game from February 21, 2024 on ESPN. Includes all points, rebounds and steals stats.
So everybody has to learn from this loss yes? My problem is that I don’t think our head coach will.
Punesguy
- Ft. Collins, CO
To be honest, I shouldn’t let losses like tonight affect me the way that I do. It’s not warranted and it’s certainly not healthy. But to have a team as talented as we have and then see the total collapse that we saw is gut-wrenching! You could blame Coleman’s mental lapses, Goode’s horrific defense, Harmon’s continual backdoor swing gate, 18 of 27 free throws, 18 turnovers, Goode shooting a 3 with 20 second on the shot clock, lack of an in-bound pass play and having the wrong people on the floor in the last 3 minutes … and all of those blunders contributed to an embarrassing loss. The thing that concerns me the most is that this has become a trend that our coach sweeps under the rug at pressers because of a “great environment” or “those kids and that coach deserve all of the credit.” That’s a bunch of crap, right now we are not Elite, we are not Connected and we are not Every Day Guys! We have an old and talented team that can beat just about anyone if we play to our capabilities. I hope something clicks over the next few days and we show that against Iowa! 
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