Pregame: Illinois at Michigan State, Saturday, February 19th, 11:00am CT, ESPN

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#151      
Many of you are acting like the sky is falling. In the past 4 games we have played in the 3 toughest evironments in the B1G (arguably) and a home game against a team that plays everyone close. We haven't played our best ball and still finished 2-2. Everything is fine. This is a mature team that is going to work out of the slump, and we have a good coach at the helm. Like another poster said....the Groce days are over.

I have no doubt we will play well tomorrow. I just hope the refs stay out of it.
 
#152      
When I played, home or away was of no significance to me....an attitude I learned early from a coach who took us around the gym measuring all lines, hoops, circles and balls to prove to us that they were identical. In fact, there were several other gyms in which I played as many as 15 games over my career that had rims with nets that seemed to make them look bigger than our home gym.

But the B1G road seems contrary to this mind set...and mostly due to the crowd. It can and does get into the head of EVERY player to some degree and becomes a factor. Yes, occasionally, we see teams come out hot on the road and take all the wind out of the sails of the home team and bury them so deep they cannot come back on inferior teams. But that is rare, and one only has to look at the record of visiting teams agains the spread to discern how much the home court means.

The point is, with this next game in East Lansing, there is no way we can predict what we will see. Will it be an Illini team full of plus shooters who can find the net? Or will it be an Illini team filled recently with doubt who finds a lid over the hoop on both ends? Who the heck knows? Can they match the energy that the Spartans get from the crowd and be physical and dominant on the boards? Or will they be a split second slow and let Sparty be at every right place at the right time?

My overall impression is that on a neutral court, the Illini would win maybe 67% of the time or more against Sparty in a match of this season's teams. But in East Lansing, Sparty likely would win 50% of the time....and that makes this game a tossup.

I do agree, it is time for Melendez to start a game. Also a time to show some zone and full court press. Not as a weapon, but I think it would make Izzo think "oh no!" Being predictable gives good coaches an advantage. Putting RJ and even Goode on the floor gives more size, quickness, and defense with little drop off in shooting. Then, when Curbelo, Grandy, DMW, and Payne or BBV arrive, they can score and defend also....well, three of them can anyway.

What I want to see is to stop trying to do the same thing over and over. It may be easy...but not close to a good thing in college hoops. When you have a talented team of mixed skills...some elite...try mixing them when in a funk. And I fully understand that you can't change starters overnight and expect good chemistry... but chemistry can turn on a dime...and this team has turned on a dime in the wrong direction lately. Time to give them all some love and put some inspiration in them...and energy.

Playing on the road in college and the pros is tough because many times you have to sit on a bus on plane or several hours and that definitely throws off the natural rhythm of your day.
 
#153      
While it feels like there’s been a “sky is falling” mentality since the Rutgers game, we’re closing a 5-game stretch of 4 on the road tomorrow (with @ Purdue, Indiana, Rutgers and MSU being about as tough as it gets). If we manage to take 3/5 of those with a win at MSU tomorrow, you can’t help but feel pretty happy given how hard it is to win in the road and having 3/4 at home to close out the season. Tomorrow is HUGE! Especially because MSU is proving to be beatable…
 
#154      
I have no doubt we will play well tomorrow. I just hope the refs stay out of it.
I agree with the sentiment, so I’m not trying to use your words in a way you didn’t intend, but I wish in one case they would be much more in it. Opposing coaches have to be telling their players “ double or triple down on Cockburn and hack, they are not going to call a foul.”
 
#155      
Tomorrow we need to all-out-no-going-back BRING IT !

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#157      
I believe you're spot on here and just posted the same sort of response in the Rutgers postgame thread.

Regarding O v. D explosiveness, elevating to block a shot is different from adjusting your own shot during penetration to avoid being blocked. As a guy who was a 5'10" point guard back in the day, and had a vertical jump roughly the equivalent of Jake's jump shot elevation, I got very good at a young age at using the upper reaches of the backboard, and my body position, to avoid long-winged forwards and centers when I penetrated and shot.

Unless you're in a position where you run the offense in practice every day, however, and drive the lane on guys 8-10 inches taller on a regular basis, it's less likely that you develop that skill. That likely accounts for DMW's good judgment and hesitation near the hole. I contrast what Curbelo does in penetration, and how he uses his body and shot adjustments with DMW's behavior. Two guys used to playing two very different positions as younger kids. Andre would, of course, have mopped the floor with me at the same age but I really relate to him in how he uses penetration to try to create off-ball opportunities for others, and then contorts himself to shoot if the opportunity arises.

... a vertical jump roughly the equivalent of Jake's jump shot elevation ...
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#159      
But Maj. "King" Kong was trying to stop that bomb from dropping...
The unanswered question is exactly whom, in the context of the epic Breslin Ctr tilt tomorrow, Maj. Kong represents in that clip. I believe OP implies it's Tommy Boy in a fit of flailing futility attempting to forestall the inevitable Illini Dominant Erupt™.
 
#160      
Evidently I was unclear about the Podz for Plummer situation ........I advocate starting R J and CoHawk Saturday for DMW and Jake ......And i think using Luke and Podz earlier in games especially if plummer is off his shot......Nowhere did i mean to insinuate starting Podz for Plummer .....I'm not that crazy (yet) to think that .....But , plummer has little effect on D and if he is cold then let him sit for a 2-3 minute stretch and let Podz get some tick ....Luke brings more size and usually is a threat to score , even though he has been off also.......

We have 5 B1g games and the BTT left to right the Illini ship back to being a top 15 team.......Playing like we have the last couple of games seems to warrant different players getting a chance to see if they can help....

R J starting Saturday is a no brainer for me........................JMHO
I could also see starting Andre, Trent, Plummer, RJ and Kofi. Substituting early and often DMW, JG and CH. Of course Omar/ BBV for Kofi. LG and BP for some limited tick. This way Brad could see who was going to be most affective as the game goes on and have the ones he needs on the floor at crucial junctures of the game.
 
#161      
I think our issues are being overanalyzed, but that is easy for me to say as someone who never played basketball at a high level. To me, it seems as simple as we are not hitting our shots, and the effort to make up for that hasn't been there. It allows us to escape vs. Northwestern, but it gets us buried vs. an energetic Rutgers team that is red hot.

The shots will fall, so it's the energy that scares me. With a few days to chill out a bit, I am pretty confident once again that we will bring a pep in our step into East Lansing. We need this win.
You see it often in baseball: Hitting tends to ebb and flow, both for individual players and for teams. When the hits are falling, players put less pressure on themselves, and you see them relax and start having fun. Then it’s rally time…

I think that’s why Trent - the emotional leader of this team, imo - made a point of saying, we just need to start having fun again. He sees that they’re playing tight. Each shooter is pressing to be the one who breaks the team out of its funk (or they pass up open shots they’d normally be confident in taking), and so the funk continues. That translates to a deflated spirit, which turns into lower energy levels and bad body language.

In short, sports is supposed to be fun… something we fans might do well to remember, too. Now, let’s go take some fun out of East Lansing, haha!
 
#165      
I think our issues are being overanalyzed, but that is easy for me to say as someone who never played basketball at a high level. To me, it seems as simple as we are not hitting our shots, and the effort to make up for that hasn't been there. It allows us to escape vs. Northwestern, but it gets us buried vs. an energetic Rutgers team that is red hot.

The shots will fall, so it's the energy that scares me. With a few days to chill out a bit, I am pretty confident once again that we will bring a pep in our step into East Lansing. We need this win.
I have a different opinion. I instead maintain that Rutgers had superior "game prep" coaching and took away our good looks from three. They overplayed our guards beyond the 3-pt arc and would not allow us to get good looks for 50-75% of the game. DaMonte's 3-pt attempts for example were God-awful. He was hurried and way too deep. Goode's one attempt was forced/hurried from the corner and half of Plummer's 3's were hurried and off-balance. I thought the Rutgers defense was superb and responsible for some really poor looks we got.

On the offensive end, I also thought Pikiell several times went 1:1 against our weakest defensive link. The two best examples were Ron Harper Jr. taking RJ to school for back-to-back buckets in the first half. Mulcahy later did the same thing backing his guy down in the paint for two or three short 5 footers.
 
#166      
While it feels like there’s been a “sky is falling” mentality since the Rutgers game, we’re closing a 5-game stretch of 4 on the road tomorrow (with @ Purdue, Indiana, Rutgers and MSU being about as tough as it gets). If we manage to take 3/5 of those with a win at MSU tomorrow, you can’t help but feel pretty happy given how hard it is to win in the road and having 3/4 at home to close out the season. Tomorrow is HUGE! Especially because MSU is proving to be beatable…
... and especially since they need it as bad as we do or worse.
 
#167      
Sure, and I “prefer“ ribeye steaks, but there are days we all have to adjust, you think?
I agree. But, I was responding to a post that wondered why we don't shoot more pull-ups. I personally think and have said many times, that sometimes a 15-16 foot jumper is an excellent option when we need to just hit a basket.
 
#168      
I don't think it's quite this simple. Look how many mid range jumpers and floaters Rutgers made.
I was specifically responding to why BU's teams don't take a lot of shorter jumpers.
 
#169      
I have a different opinion. I instead maintain that Rutgers had superior "game prep" coaching and took away our good looks from three. They overplayed our guards beyond the 3-pt arc and would not allow us to get good looks for 50-75% of the game. DaMonte's 3-pt attempts for example were God-awful. He was hurried and way too deep. Goode's one attempt was forced/hurried from the corner and half of Plummer's 3's were hurried and off-balance. I thought the Rutgers defense was superb and responsible for some really poor looks we got.

On the offensive end, I also thought Pikiell several times went 1:1 against our weakest defensive link. The two best examples were Ron Harper Jr. taking RJ to school for back-to-back buckets in the first half. Mulcahy later did the same thing backing his guy down in the paint for two or three short 5 footers.
Your second paragraph is spot on.

Coach U disagrees with every point you make in paragraph one. And though it matters naught, so do I.
 
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#170      
Yes. Exactly.

Like Lou's patended back door lob dunk from Bruce Douglas to Efrem Winter.
Thank you. That's exactly what I need to remember on a cold Friday afternoon when winter doesn't seem like it is going anywhere soon. Good times!

Speaking of which, enjoy this ESPN preview of the 1984-85 Illini team. Some nice Douglas-to-Winters alley oop footage. And at the end, Dick Vitale chimes in:

 
#171      
The unanswered question is exactly whom, in the context of the epic Breslin Ctr tilt tomorrow, Maj. Kong represents in that clip. I believe OP implies it's Tommy Boy in a fit of flailing futility attempting to forestall the inevitable Illini Dominant Erupt™.

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#172      
The unanswered question is exactly whom, in the context of the epic Breslin Ctr tilt tomorrow, Maj. Kong represents in that clip. I believe OP implies it's Tommy Boy in a fit of flailing futility attempting to forestall the inevitable Illini Dominant Erupt™.
You get an alliteration like from me. (y)
 
#173      
I'm pretty excited, though admittedly also a little nervous, for tomorrow. Watching BU's press conference, both he and the fanbase seem to be on the same page about our intensity recently. Undoubtedly, he's sent the team a message. Now it's up to them to respond. I have faith that we will. We have too much senior leadership with too much experience to let this thing crash and burn.

We're also, frankly, not that far removed from playing one of our best games of the season at Indiana. We did just about everything right in a hostile environment on an early Saturday afternoon. Bring that same intensity. Get back on track. Then there's only one thing left to do.
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#174      
The unanswered question is exactly whom, in the context of the epic Breslin Ctr tilt tomorrow, Maj. Kong represents in that clip. I believe OP implies it's Tommy Boy in a fit of flailing futility attempting to forestall the inevitable Illini Dominant Erupt™.
There is so much packed into this one post. Thank you for this.
 
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