Pregame: Illinois at Purdue, Saturday, October 4th, 11:00am CT, BTN

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DeonThomas
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STLflyinIllini
RabidDawgClassic said:
In an attempt to do my best Fighter of the Nightman, here’s a breakdown of the national rankings of the P4 teams Illinois has played and who they have left on the schedule, courtesy of ESPN stats.

PASSING

We have beaten the current #2 and #3 ranked passers nationally and lost to #21. Our next toughest passer we’ll face is #7, Athan Kaliakmanis of Rutgers.

#2 Jayden Maiava (USC)
#3 Darian Mensah (Duke)
#7 Athan Kaliakmanis (Rutgers)
# 21 Fernando Mendoza (Indiana)
#53 Malik Washington (Maryland)
#54 Ryan Browne (Purdue)
#62 Julian Sayin (Ohio State)
#68 Demond Williams (Wash)
#105 Preston Jones (N’west)
#108 Danny O’Neil (Wisconsin)

So, in theory, outside of Rutgers, we shouldn’t face as fierce of a passing attack as we have already this season.

RUSHING
Rushing wise, we’ve faced and beaten #6 and #39 and lost to the #44 and #49 tag team duo at Indiana.

#6 Waymond Jordan (USC)
#13 Antwan Raymond (Rutgers)
#17 Jonah Coleman (Wash)
#39 Nate Sheppard (Duke)
#44 Roman Hemby (Indiana)
#49 Kaelon Black (Indiana)
#80 Bo Jackson (Ohio State)
#96 Caleb Komolafe (N’west)
#117 Devin Mockobee (Purdue)
#194 CJ Donaldson (Ohio State)
#202 DeJuan Williams (Maryland)
#243 Adam Mohammad (Wash)
#254 Dillin Jones (Wisconsin)

Again, Rutgers appears to be the most threatening of the remaining bunch.

RECEIVING

Receiving wise, we’ve beaten #1 and #14. We’ve lost to #11 and #21 (both of IU)

#1 Makai Lemon (USC)
#12 KJ Duff (Rutgers)
#13 Ian Strong (Rutgers)
#14 Cooper Bartake Jr (Duke)
#18 is Jeremiah Smith (Ohio State)
#21 Elijah Sarratt (Indiana)
#53 DT Sheffield (Rutgers)
#63 Griffin Wilde (N’west)
#93 Shaleak Knotts (Maryland)
#94 Denzel Boston (Wash)
#107 Octavian Smith (Maryland)
#121 Carnell Tate (Ohio State)
#230 Nitro Tuggle (Purdue)
#235 Arhmad Branch (Purdue)
#239 Jalil Farooq (Maryland)
#250 Lance Mason (Wisconsin)

DEFENSE

No surprise. We struggled mightily against #5 and had field days against #64 and #87

1 Ohio State
5 Indiana
7 Maryland
38 Wisconsin
44 Northwestern
46 Washington
64 USC
70 Illinois
79 Rutgers
87 Duke
89 Purdue

So what does all this information mean? Just from an offensive standpoint, Rutgers appears to be the most formidable and a team that could really exploit our Achilles heel. But they’re about the same as us defensively, so expect a shootout.

Combining defense and offense, Ohio State is the most balanced and, naturally, should be the toughest team left on our schedule. All things combined, I’d rank them in this order:

Ohio State
Rutgers
Maryland
Washington
Purdue
Northwestern
Wisconsin

It is SHOCKING how far the Badgers have fallen. 😳
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I would expect the QB/WR for our future opponents to rise in the rankings after playing us.
*ducks*

Besides OSU, I think I am most concerned about Washington, mainly due to travel, and Maryland, if their defense is legit.
Rutgers should be a fun game.
 
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DeonThomas
RabidDawgClassic said:
In an attempt to do my best Fighter of the Nightman, here’s a breakdown of the national rankings of the P4 teams Illinois has played and who they have left on the schedule, courtesy of ESPN stats.

PASSING

We have beaten the current #2 and #3 ranked passers nationally and lost to #21. Our next toughest passer we’ll face is #7, Athan Kaliakmanis of Rutgers.

#2 Jayden Maiava (USC)
#3 Darian Mensah (Duke)
#7 Athan Kaliakmanis (Rutgers)
# 21 Fernando Mendoza (Indiana)
#53 Malik Washington (Maryland)
#54 Ryan Browne (Purdue)
#62 Julian Sayin (Ohio State)
#68 Demond Williams (Wash)
#105 Preston Jones (N’west)
#108 Danny O’Neil (Wisconsin)

So, in theory, outside of Rutgers, we shouldn’t face as fierce of a passing attack as we have already this season.

RUSHING
Rushing wise, we’ve faced and beaten #6 and #39 and lost to the #44 and #49 tag team duo at Indiana.

#6 Waymond Jordan (USC)
#13 Antwan Raymond (Rutgers)
#17 Jonah Coleman (Wash)
#39 Nate Sheppard (Duke)
#44 Roman Hemby (Indiana)
#49 Kaelon Black (Indiana)
#80 Bo Jackson (Ohio State)
#96 Caleb Komolafe (N’west)
#117 Devin Mockobee (Purdue)
#194 CJ Donaldson (Ohio State)
#202 DeJuan Williams (Maryland)
#243 Adam Mohammad (Wash)
#254 Dillin Jones (Wisconsin)

Again, Rutgers appears to be the most threatening of the remaining bunch.

RECEIVING

Receiving wise, we’ve beaten #1 and #14. We’ve lost to #11 and #21 (both of IU)

#1 Makai Lemon (USC)
#12 KJ Duff (Rutgers)
#13 Ian Strong (Rutgers)
#14 Cooper Bartake Jr (Duke)
#18 is Jeremiah Smith (Ohio State)
#21 Elijah Sarratt (Indiana)
#53 DT Sheffield (Rutgers)
#63 Griffin Wilde (N’west)
#93 Shaleak Knotts (Maryland)
#94 Denzel Boston (Wash)
#107 Octavian Smith (Maryland)
#121 Carnell Tate (Ohio State)
#230 Nitro Tuggle (Purdue)
#235 Arhmad Branch (Purdue)
#239 Jalil Farooq (Maryland)
#250 Lance Mason (Wisconsin)

DEFENSE

No surprise. We struggled mightily against #5 and had field days against #64 and #87

1 Ohio State
5 Indiana
7 Maryland
38 Wisconsin
44 Northwestern
46 Washington
64 USC
70 Illinois
79 Rutgers
87 Duke
89 Purdue

So what does all this information mean? Just from an offensive standpoint, Rutgers appears to be the most formidable and a team that could really exploit our Achilles heel. But they’re about the same as us defensively, so expect a shootout.

Combining defense and offense, Ohio State is the most balanced and, naturally, should be the toughest team left on our schedule. All things combined, I’d rank them in this order:

Ohio State
Rutgers
Maryland
Washington
Purdue
Northwestern
Wisconsin

It is SHOCKING how far the Badgers have fallen. 😳
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And I'd push @WASH up to #2 in terms of most difficult opponents yet remaining. (Agree with the rest.)
 
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RabidDawgClassic
skyIdub said:
FOTNM please blink twice if you’ve been kidnapped by RabidDawgClassic.

We will meet any demands he has.
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No kidnapping (this time!) - I just started looking over the stats last night and noticed some very interesting trends I felt might be worth sharing. Admittedly, I’ve mimicked Fighter’s style (sincerest flattery, as they say) but I am nowhere near his level of style or content.
 
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lstewart53x3
PleaseMakeABowlGame said:
Ball security has to be a concern after last game, but Valentine is pretty established as the number 2 back.
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I’m not worried at all about ball security.

That was Feagin’s first fumble lost in his career and I don’t believe he even actually fumbled.

That was Valentine’s first fumble lost in his career too. His second fumble, but first lost.

These backs don’t have a history of fumbles.
 
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Second place is 1st loser
therealmiket86 said:
We can’t just rush 3 guys. We need to get more aggressive with the blitzing.
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You can't just commit to blitzing. You HAVE to rely on the front four to get some pressure. If you blitz and don't get home, you're leaving our corners one on one in coverage. For us, that's an extremely bad thing because they are sub par players.

There were some people, who don't know much, who were all over Henry for his scheme and ultimately, his scheme was 100% right. He knew his guys weren't good enough in coverage, so his goal, all game, was to just keep the USC receivers in front of them. No big plays. If USC was going to score, he wanted them to eat up clock. No 45 second drives. It when we brought pressure late in the game that guys like Heckel were completely exposed.

That's what happens when you blitz and rely on exotic schemes. You leave yourself open to screens, slants and if you don't get to the QB, deep routes down field.

There is no defensive coordination on the planet that can keep his defense afloat without the defensive line creating pressure on their own. You can blitz/bring an extra guy, but it needs to come within the framework of the defense and the ability for your interior to collapse a pocket.

One more item of note. This QB is the guy who had an absolute field day against us last year, mostly with his legs. If the QB breaks contain, big problems.

Jacas, a couple of times, pushed the tackle back into the QBs lap, but not enough. He's supposed the be a game wrecker. He needs to show up in a much more pronounced way like....now.
 
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therealmiket86
Second place is 1st loser said:
You can't just commit to blitzing. You HAVE to rely on the front four to get some pressure. If you blitz and don't get home, you're leaving our corners one on one in coverage. For us, that's an extremely bad thing because they are sub par players.

There were some people, who don't know much, who were all over Henry for his scheme and ultimately, his scheme was 100% right. He knew his guys weren't good enough in coverage, so his goal, all game, was to just keep the USC receivers in front of them. No big plays. If USC was going to score, he wanted them to eat up clock. No 45 second drives. It when we brought pressure late in the game that guys like Heckel were completely exposed.

That's what happens when you blitz and rely on exotic schemes. You leave yourself open to screens, slants and if you don't get to the QB, deep routes down field.

There is no defensive coordination on the planet that can keep his defense afloat without the defensive line creating pressure on their own. You can blitz/bring an extra guy, but it needs to come within the framework of the defense and the ability for your interior to collapse a pocket.

One more item of note. This QB is the guy who had an absolute field day against us last year, mostly with his legs. If the QB breaks contain, big problems.

Jacas, a couple of times, pushed the tackle back into the QBs lap, but not enough. He's supposed the be a game wrecker. He needs to show up in a much more pronounced way like....now.
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The problem is our 4 front isn’t getting pressure and a lot of plays we are only rushing 3 guys. Heckel was exposed because he was just over matched and they were going after him. For the most part usc was able to do whatever they wanted the entire game. Miave was 30/43 365 yards and 2 tds
 
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