Pregame: Illinois vs Cincinnati, Monday, November 22nd, 5:30pm CT, ESPNews

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Looking at the remaining schedule, there is a decent chance this team goes undefeated or maybe only loses one game all the way through the Minnesota game (3rd big ten game). Kofi and Hutch coming back is massive depth wise and for just overall scoring. This is a very good and talented team, everyone needs to trust in Brad. The loss tonight will help big time down the road.
 
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Looking at the remaining schedule, there is a decent chance this team goes undefeated or maybe only loses one game all the way through the Minnesota game (3rd big ten game). Kofi and Hutch coming back is massive depth wise and for just overall scoring. This is a very good and talented team, everyone needs to trust in Brad. The loss tonight will help big time down the road.
Agreed. I’m not sure people fully understand how special it is to have Kofi. His presence draws a ton of attention. You can’t play him straight up. It’s really hard for teams that have never seen a guy like him to figure out what to do.
Unfortunately, it can creates a scenario where his team isn’t sure what to do w/o him.
 
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Looking at the remaining schedule, there is a decent chance this team goes undefeated or maybe only loses one game all the way through the Minnesota game (3rd big ten game). Kofi and Hutch coming back is massive depth wise and for just overall scoring. This is a very good and talented team, everyone needs to trust in Brad. The loss tonight will help big time down the road.
Everything is fine...Good Night.
 
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Hall of Fame Classic (T-Mobile Center, Kansas City)
Illinois vs Cincinnati
Monday, November 22nd
5:30pm CT
ESPNews

Cincinnati Bearcats - Program Overview
  • Conference:
    • American Athletic Conference (since 2005)
    • Joining Big 12 (effective date TBD, likely 2023 or 2024)
  • Coach Wes Miller: 1st season at Cincinnati
    • 11th season as a head coach (despite being only 38 years old) after 10 years at UNC-Greensboro (185-135), winning three Southern conference championships and going to two NCAA tournaments in the last five seasons.
    • Walk-on at UNC for three seasons with the stated goal of learning as much as he could from Roy Williams and becoming a college coach
    • Member of UNC’s 2005 NCAA championship team :(
    • Authored "The Road to Blue Heaven," a diary of his senior (06-07) season at UNC
  • 33 NCAA tournament appearances, most recently in 2019 (first round exit).
    • Appeared in 9 of the past 10 NCAA Tournaments.
    • Amazing 5 consecutive Final 4 appearances between 1959-1963 while a member of the Missouri Valley conference
    • 1961 and 1962 NCAA tournament champions (runner-up in 1963)
  • 10 NBA draft picks since 2000 (1 since 2011), most recently in 2018 (four first rounders, including #1 overall Kenyon Martin in 2000). Oscar Robertson was #1 overall in 1960.
  • 5th meeting between two of the top 20 programs of all time
    • Cincinnati with 1,848 wins since 1902; Illinois with 1,835 wins since 1906
    • Illinois has been nationally ranked (#3, #4, #13, #1 and #?) at the time of each of the 5 games spanning 58 years; Cincinnati has also been ranked at the time of 3 of the games.
    • Illinois all-time record vs. Cincinnati: 3-1(all on neutral courts), most recently in 2004.
      • January 1963 at Chicago Stadium: #2 Cincinnati 62, #3 Illinois 53.Battle of styles with Cincinnati slower and more methodical and Illinois more run and gun (averaging 88 ppg). Per SI article, Cincinnati controlled the pace and Illinois shot poorly, “Finally, with five minutes left and a nine-point lead, Cincinnati shifted from slowdown to deep freeze, and refused to shoot at all. The boos rattled the stadium roof, but nothing rattles a Cincinnati stall and Illinois was beaten.”
        • Cincinnati was 2x defending national champion and Tony Yates, its 25 year old captain, playmaker and defensive stalwart (also the starting PG on the two title winning teams), was named to All-American teams (Helms,1st; AP 3rd) despite averaging only 7.6 points. A grown man, he served in the Air Force and got married before starting college.
        • Yates went on to be a great assistant coach at Illinois, first for Gene Bartow in 74-75 and then Lou Henson (through 82-83 season), and was a key recruiter (helping land players like Audie Matthews (Top 10 Parade All-American), Eddie Johnson (Top 20 Parade All-American), Derek Harper (Top 10 Parade All-American), Efrem Winters (MVP of McDonalds AA game) and Bruce Douglas (McDonalds AA) helping Lou with the rebuild. He left to become the head coach at Cincinnati.
      • December 18, 1984 at Rosemont Horizon. #4 Illinois 87, Cincinnati 65. Illini shoot 59.2% from the field and have 24 assists on 29 FGs, 5 players in double figures, led by Ken Norman with 17 (in 13 minutes) and Efrem Winters with 13 points and 10 rebounds.
      • 2004 NCAA tournament 2nd round (Columbus, OH): #13 (5 seed) Illinois 92, #11 (4 seed) Cincinnati 68. Dominant performance by the Illini is a reminder of how much potential the 03-04 team had (with the same lineup) a year before the run to the title game as a 1 seed in 04-05. Turns out shooting 63.6% from the field (including 11-19 from 3FG) and having 26 assists and 4 turnovers is a good formula for winning tournament games. Deron Williams led the way with 31 points (including 6 3FGs) and 7 assists, Roger Powell had 22 points, Dee had 14 points and 8 assists, and Luther had 6 points and 9 assists.
      • December 31, 2004 in Las Vegas. #1 Illinois 67, #22 Cincinnati 45. Illinois moves to 14-0 with New Year’s Eve victory in Vegas. 4 Illini in double figures (Deron, Dee, Roger and Luther).
 
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Our entire offense is built around Kofi pick and rolls. His (exceptional) box score production is only part of the story, he opens up the game for everyone else, including ‘Belo. Would I have loved an easy W yesterday? Sure. But our “real” season starts in six days. I think there is a significant chance we win both games next week by double digits and a non-negligible chance a backboard gets shattered.

Brad would never admit this publicly, but I imagine part of him is thrilled to have a dumpster fire game like this so early in the season to check egos and light a fire under these guys.
 
#20      
Lets get that bad taste out of our mouths with the unacceptable loss to Marquette and get back to business against Cincy. Looking forward to seeing Kofi for the 1st time this season. GO ILLINI!
 
#24      
Looking at the remaining schedule, there is a decent chance this team goes undefeated or maybe only loses one game all the way through the Minnesota game (3rd big ten game). Kofi and Hutch coming back is massive depth wise and for just overall scoring. This is a very good and talented team, everyone needs to trust in Brad. The loss tonight will help big time down the road.
While I am not this optimistic yet (for example, Curbelo not being suicidally terrible was a big foundation point for my optimism this season ;) ), I do agree that this loss might serve us well in the long run. It should be a nice slice of humble pie for both Curbelo and the team as a whole, and I think it probably gave Trent some essential confidence going forward that he will need ... we will be relying on his offense a lot more than last year, and he is up to the challenge, IMO!

As I said in the other thread, a terrible loss at Mizzou and a bad loss at home to Maryland didn't stop us from getting a 1-seed last year. We are a long way from that goal, based on last night, but the point is this loss wasn't detrimental to our goals of a deep Tournament run in March. Not at all. If we come out at full strength and get two wins this week (one being vs. #16 Arkansas, who will likely be ranked above us), the Marquette loss will be ancient history.
 
#25      
Not sure of the quality of Cincy players, but doesn’t look like Illini will “out depth” them. Think they have 10 or 11 players in averaging double digit mpg. They have 4 players averaging 25+ mpg, but no one over 28 mpg. Their wins so far are against Evansville and Georgia. Not sure how those teams are, but I’m guessing better than Jackson St and Ark St respectively.
 
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