Pregame: Illinois vs Jackson State, Monday, November 3rd, 7:30pm CT, BTN

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#226      
I'll predict a 94-67 victory with Wagler hitting 5 threes and going for 25, Mirk going 15-5-5, Tomi with 15-15, Z with 10-8 and 4 fouls, Kylan with 14 and 8 assists, and Ben with 12 and 6.
 
#227      
Given the history of this board, Ben could put up 50 tonight and people will still light their torches and call for his ouster.

If Ben doesn’t chuck threes and actually attacks the glass and guards and plays his role …

Won’t hear much from me this year …

He starts chucking crap shots … Doesn’t rebound and gets abused defensively …

I’ll be right here saying his 🍑 needs to sit …
 
#229      
I’m in town for Dad’s weekend. Staying an extra couple of days to go to the opener. Randomly ran into Bruce Weber at breakfast this morning at the hotel. Dude was super nice and down to earth.
He's as high of a character guy as there is. You'd always like to see guys like him win at a high level, but sometimes it takes being a little bit of an a$$hole and having a big ego to succeed at this level.
 
#231      
If Ben doesn’t chuck threes and actually attacks the glass and guards and plays his role …

Won’t hear much from me this year …

He starts chucking crap shots … Doesn’t rebound and gets abused defensively …

I’ll be right here saying his 🍑 needs to sit …
His role is to take (and make) open threes. And do his best on the glass and on defense.
 
#233      
I think this will be a Mirkovic coming out party.

I think he is a player that we and the league will be talking about a lot as the season progresses, way more than expected.
I think the guy is going to be a star, I really do.
Same! My comp is Draymond Green he reminds me so much of his game (so far).
 
#235      
Everyone on the site knows you hate Ben, but why don't you quit bad mouthing him until he deserves it.
 
#237      
It won’t be Ben’s play that brings out the pitchforks.

It will be watching Mirk and Wagler minutes limited because BU loves Ben.

Dub dub for Mirk tonight. ✊🏼👊🏼
 
#238      
He's as high of a character guy as there is. You'd always like to see guys like him win at a high level, but sometimes it takes being a little bit of an a$$hole and having a big ego to succeed at this level.
Looser morals when it came to recruiting would have helped. No denying he is an incredibly talented X and O's guy.
 
#239      
It won’t be Ben’s play that brings out the pitchforks.

It will be watching Mirk and Wagler minutes limited because BU loves Ben.

Dub dub for Mirk tonight. ✊🏼👊🏼
How a 6'9 dude can play 20+ minutes and not record a rebound is beyond me.

Too big of a stage to have a "cardio" game, especially with Z and Mirk fighting for minutes at the 4.

O/U 20 minutes a game for Ben this season?

Give me the under.
 
#240      
There is no way Ben starts. I just can't see it after last year.

If I had to guess

Wagler
Kylan
Andrej
Mirk
Tomi

Big Z first off bench along with Ben
 
#243      
There is no way Ben starts. I just can't see it after last year.

If I had to guess

Wagler
Kylan
Andrej
Mirk
Tomi

Big Z first off bench along with Ben
As much as I like Wagler's potential, I can't see him starting at PG over Petro. Once Petro is fully healthy.
 
#244      
If Ben doesn’t chuck threes and actually attacks the glass and guards and plays his role …

Won’t hear much from me this year …

He starts chucking crap shots … Doesn’t rebound and gets abused defensively …

I’ll be right here saying his 🍑 needs to sit …
This is fair. I think Ben's success is tethered to how many shots he makes inside the arc...
 
#245      
Was curious which game he did not record a rebound in?
Never recorded 0, but did only record 1 rebound 6 separate times against Bama, Wisky, Tenn, Mizzou, Duke, and Purdue. Those are massive games where you'd hope a guy playing 20+ minutes (which he did in every single one of those games) would crash the boards better. And look, I'm not a Ben basher, but the stats aren't what you want or need against high-level competition.
 
#246      
Never recorded 0, but did only record 1 rebound 6 separate times against Bama, Wisky, Tenn, Mizzou, Duke, and Purdue. Those are massive games where you'd hope a guy playing 20+ minutes (which he did in every single one of those games) would crash the boards better. And look, I'm not a Ben basher, but the stats aren't what you want or need against high-level competition.

Ok, so what he said never happened, gotcha 😁

Serious note, I get it... 3.8 rebounds in 25 mpg... he's quite a bit stronger this year, so we'll just have to see
 
#247      
I'm mostly excited to see which newcomer will put up a 25 spot in the game, after which everyone's expectations for that player will be wildly out of alignment for the season. Wagler? Lee? Mirkovic? Big Z? Stojakovic?
I'll be excited if Stoyakovic puts up a "25 spot" in minutes played. No way am I expecting that, however.
 
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