CleaverName
- Chicago but not there anymore
You must have a more dangerous commute than I do !
Pregame: Illinois vs Mississippi State, Monday, January 2nd, 11:00am CT, ESPN2
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mhuml32
- Cincinnati, OH
That's a blow to their passing game.
I don't this analogy works unless your job is gladiatorial combat and your "retirement" is more gladiatorial combat.
Kids don't sit out Bowl Games because the NFL is easier. They sit out because if they drop in the draft because of injury, they can miss out on millions of dollars worth of signing bonuses.
I only dislike players sitting out if they could actually *improve* their stock by playing. And those kinds of decisions come after numerous conversations with coaches, family, friends, etc.
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Remember Martin broke his leg in the conference tournament. So basketball is not immune to this
What if Kenyon Martin didn't break his leg? How one freak injury altered college basketball | Sporting News
Cincinnati's Kenyon Martin broke his leg before the 2000 NCAA tournament, an injury that altered college basketball forever. What if it didn't happen?
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Mr. Tibbs
- southeast DuPage
well, you cant serve two masters
5 tickets and 1 parking pass purchased today for the 103 mile drive north on Jan 1.
Edit: Jan 2
C'mon, go on the 1st and get started tailgating - you'll be primed by game time!
IlliniCardinal
- Minneapolis
Maybe there should be NIL bonuses for certain (or all) players that play in bowl games, in addition to insurance policies.
IlliniCardinal
- Minneapolis
You will get tickets, though you may not get them in your zone. You will be sure your purchase directly supports the Illini.
One solution is to give more to the I Fund!
-- Maybe NIL can buy insurance policies for bowl game players who are entering NFL draft
-- Maybe NIL can offer appearance bonus for players to play in games (do PR work at game?)
-- I know its hard to wait but if I was starter who was going to enter the transfer portal I would play to get exposure then enter the portal afterwards
I can't imagine its good for the bowl to have the biggest stars sit out the game.
-- Maybe NIL can offer appearance bonus for players to play in games (do PR work at game?)
-- I know its hard to wait but if I was starter who was going to enter the transfer portal I would play to get exposure then enter the portal afterwards
I can't imagine its good for the bowl to have the biggest stars sit out the game.
Illini2010-11
- Sugar Grove
While I agree in general premise with these ideas, there are a lot of logistical hurdles for inking these sorts of NIL deals. In reality, there are only a handful of bowls that are meaningful in any way, that this would even make sense from both sides. Once the playoff gets expanded, I only see those games, or NY6 equivalent games being justifiable for these sorts of NIL deals (due to extra wear and tear of additional games), which would likely come from sponsors of bowls for non-playoff games.
The reality is that lower-tier bowls would simply not be justifiable to have these sorts of NIL deals, as getting an NFL caliber player to play in Detroit, for example, would not move the needle for people to watch the game in person or on the tv set. The fact of the matter is that the shear volume of bowl games has diluted the value of a majority of the bowls, which also makes these sorts of NIL deals infeasible. I also do not think people attend most bowl games for watching specific players, but rather go for the experience.
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Illini2010-11
- Sugar Grove
Technically they are still available to play for prior/current team. Though I see no reason for the old coaches to want them to play (or the new coach for that matter).
Players in the transfer portal can play in bowl games
The college football transfer portal has only been around in its current, immediate-eligibility form for two cycles now, but it already feels like an ingrained part of the
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Imagine DeVito, Chase Brown, Newton, Randolph, Weatherspoon, and Sydney Brown all skipped the bowl game
Would you want to watch Sitowski and our 2nd string defense play vs. MSU 2nd string
Illini2010-11
- Sugar Grove
Of course I would rather see our best vs their best. However, my position is that if all of these players were to sit out, I do not think it would have an overly negative impact on those who were already willing to travel and attend the game. Those who are going to watch the game on television are still going to watch the game, albeit maybe not as intensely. As a fan, I would always want to see the best players playing in bowl games, but I understand the delicacies on why players make strategic decision to sit out bowl games.
I was simply responding to the thought that NIL deals would be the magical cure to players sitting out bowl games. I think it could work in certain scenarios (generally in higher tier bowl games where there is substantially more money at play and these sorts of deals make sense), but the largest hurdle is the value of the deals/cost of insurance in these "lower-tier" bowl games. What is the fair market value of the insurance payout (the fair market value may be well below what players would expect or demand, should they get serious injury)? What is the cost of the premium to setup these policies, especially if a player demands an excessively inflated payout. Also the complexities of insurance packages may scare away a player from accepting for one game (background screenings, issues obtaining payout should injury occur, etc.) I believe there is some NIL package that will incentivize some to play (in our particular game it might work), but in general, I do not think blanket NIL deals will be enough to end the issue of players sitting out bowl games in general. I hope I am wrong, but this is a very complex issue. I for one am not going to sweat if a number of top tier players sit out non-playoff bowl games (each individual needs to make their optimal decision based upon the factors as they see them), as I am still going to watch these games, and it is still a great development for players that plan on suiting up for the team next year.
I do 100% agree with your comment on those who enter transfer portal before bowl game, but my guess is many of these players are trying to get a jumpstart on other players, and as long as they are not in the portal, they cannot be in "contact" with other coaches. These issues of players sitting out bowl games due to transfer or protecting draft stock are very complicated.
I imagine this could be a reason why, as BB said in his presser, that the backups are getting first string and extra snaps in these practices.
So, uh, Mississippi State is definitely gonna have one less offensive weapon.
illini80
- Forgottonia
No matter who plays or the outcome, this is big for next season.
College Player Files $3M Claim with Lloyd’s for Drop in NFL Draft
College Player Files $3M Claim with Lloyd's for Drop in NFL Draft
For the first time ever, a former college football star will cash in on an insurance policy that protected him from a free-fall in the NFL draft. CBS
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LOST LOV: A ONCE-BUSTLING MARKET FOR COLLEGE-ATHLETE INSURANCE FALLS ON HARD TIMES
Lost LOV: A Once-Bustling Market for College-Athlete Insurance Falls on Hard Times
The market for loss-of-value (LOV) insurance, sold to college athletes to guard against injury and illness, has undergone a big contraction.
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Players projected to be chosen in the first 3 rounds of the NFL Draft are eligible to purchase this insurance to protect against a career ending injury with a loan against their future income. The maximum pay-out is $10 million and can cost anywhere between $1000–8000 per $1 million insured depending on position and injury history. The loan is repayable either when the player signs a professional contract, a claim is made or the policy expires. This type of policy is also available privately and the only successful claim has been by Ed Chester in 1998.
College Football Players protecting their Future
With the conclusion of the Superbowl, the NFL’s yearlong juggernaut turns its attention to the NFL Scouting Combine taking place this week in Indianapolis , where the best college players are invited…
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LarryGotFouled
- Plano, TX
Agreed. It's reflective of the essential meaninglessness of the bowls and why no player on a playoff team sits out - no matter what their draft expectations. It's why the NFL Pro Bowl effectively ended because there was no point and only downside for players to participate. College Basketball doesn't have this problem for the obvious reason that anybody in the post season still has a shot at the title. I would imagine that the NIT has a similar problem with regard to stars sitting it out and preparing for the draft process instead.
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