St. Louis Cardinals 2022

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pruman91

Paducah, Ky

JUPITER, Fla. — Just when the Cardinals probably felt free and clear from the Mike Shildt situation after MLB lockout theater and the Albert Pujols reunion, the Cardinals’ ex-manager said not so fast to his front-office friends turned foes.
Shildt, with an assist from Hall of Famer Tony La Russa, refreshed a bitter baseball breakup story Thursday with comments made to USA Today.
Shildt, opening up a vein during Padres spring training in Arizona, has a long list of new baseball duties. But he is still first and foremost a broken-hearted former Cardinals manager, still analyzing his surprise October ejection before the promotion of bench coach Oliver Marmol to his old job.

Shildt told USA Today he expected to wear the Cardinals uniform his whole life. He said his firing after a third consecutive postseason stunned him. He said he and Cardinals president of baseball operations John Mozeliak had their differences but not ones that merited a dismissal .“I was so loyal to that organization and cared so much," Shildt told USA Today. “I felt an immense weight of being a caretaker of that organization. Ultimately, I put too much pressure on myself. That was my issue, not anybody else’s. I didn’t want to let Mo down. I didn’t want to let my team down. I didn’t want to let our fanbase now. I didn’t want to let the tradition of players that came before us down. I was very passionate of that and dedicated to it, and at some level, I probably cared too much."

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Less than a week before the official start of the season and this situation is revisited again ................................

I'm ready for some baseball..........................I really really am.................................


JUPITER, Fla. — Former Cardinals manager Tony La Russa couldn’t put his finger on where he had heard or read it, but he told the Post-Dispatch he was “(ticked) off” by reports that Mike Shildt, the most recent former manager of the club, was dismissed because of a “toxic environment” in the clubhouse.
La Russa, who had seen Shildt earlier this week when the White Sox played the San Diego Padres, for whom Shildt is the interim third-base coach, said he was concerned such a report could cost Shildt a chance to get another managing job in the majors.
“I thought Mike did a good job, but I wasn’t in a position to second-guess the organization. I don’t know who started it,” said La Russa, who said he had understood, to a minor degree, the part about “philosophical differences” leading to Shildt’s firing but rebelled when he heard it said there was a toxic environment in the clubhouse.

“You can’t have that winning streak they had at the end of the season and have a toxic environment,” La Russa said. “I watched some of the games and I saw the celebrations — the way coaches, manager and players were. That was one of the most amazing streaks in the Cardinals’ history, when you think about the competition they were facing.
“That really (ticked) me off. It (ticked) a lot of us off,” said La Russa, by telephone from the White Sox training camp in Glendale, Arizona.
 
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#102      
With former Cardinal favorite, Skip Schumaker, on board, one wonders, if he has not assumed the manager- in waiting mantle. 3 mangers since Larussa. 3 rookie managers.
 
#103      
I have no idea what went on behind closed doors. With all do respect to TLR, you CAN have a toxic locker room and still win games. The Yankees of the 70 or 80's proved it. I think the Oakland A's when he was the manager had conflicts as well. Perhaps that is why he is getting involved in the Cardinal situation even though he knows nothing about it.
 
#104      
The frustrating offseason
I think a lot of fans feel this way.

The St. Louis Cardinals had a great opportunity to dramatically improve the team this offseason. The free agent market offered some intriguing options to fit several key areas of need. With it being Yadier Molina (and perhaps) Adam Wainwright’s final season in 2022, the lack of urgency to meaningfully improve the roster was striking.

The big contracts that fell off the books were not offset with any high dollar, high impact additions. The team’s biggest offseason acquisition was free agent starting pitcher Stephen Matz. The move, in a vacuum, is solid. Matz is a mid-rotation starter, and a lefty. He gives the Cardinals a different look from their rotation. The Cardinals’ elite defense should help him maximize his value. Again, a good move.

But the starting rotation is already carrying substantial risk.
The article continues on.
The bullpen was an area that, coming out of the lockout, seemed poised for a big addition. Several reliable reporters were linking the Cardinals to high-end bullpen arms. Skip ahead to spring training and they did not add any certainty for the bullpen. They added a handful of scratch-off lottery tickets and minor league deals hoping that quantity will produce quality.
In all fairness StL has gotten higher priced big name relievers and it didn't work out so well. A number of teams have been burnt going that route.
 
#106      
I believe some of the Oakland A's issues were when Alvin Dark was manager.
It could be. I knew Tony was there in the mid-late 80's and they won with him. All I meant was teams that win have the ability to overlook the petty squabbles. While teams that lose don't.
 
#107      

jmwillini

Tolono, IL
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The phone call...
 
#108      

pruman91

Paducah, Ky


Derrick Goold
WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — With his Gold Glove goal already in hand, Cardinals center fielder Harrison Bader is closer to running down another career ambition.
The Cardinals and their golden outfielder plan to finalize a two-year extension as soon as Sunday, a source confirmed to the Post-Dispatch. The contract, which guarantees Bader slightly more than $10 million, allows the club to avoid an arbitration hearing. For Bader, it gets him closer to what he’s often discussed — staying with the team that drafted him.
“I want to be a Cardinal, and I want to stay a Cardinal,” Bader said before referencing Yadier Molina and Adam Wainwright. “And I don’t have to look far for a couple of teammates who have been Cardinals for life. I don’t want to play anywhere else. I want to do all I can to have the chance to stay here.”

A deal with Bader leaves Tyler O’Neill as the only Cardinal headed toward an arbitration hearing, though the club and their left fielder have continued to discuss a multi-year extension.
 
#109      

pruman91

Paducah, Ky

Dan Caesar
Alot less ESPN. Tuesdays with TBS. Then throw in a fruit (Apple) and a bird (Peacock) to mix with MLB Network, Fox and FS1.
Those are the key players in the significant ways in which baseball fans will watch games this season — and in some cases, watch fewer games than they did last year.
The wave of popularity in streaming has Major League Baseball cashing in on another revenue source.
Here's the rundown:
• MLB has contracted with Apple TV+ for Friday night doubleheaders, games that will be Apple exclusives — meaning there will be no local telecasts. When the Cardinals play there, the only way to watch will be through Apple TV+. That service costs $4.99 monthly, though the company says the games will be offered without a subscription being needed for at least the first half of the season, for which it has set its schedule. The Cards are to make three appearances — road games against the Reds (April 22) and Pirates (May 20) and a home contest against the Cubs (June 24).

• The Peacock streaming service has been in talks with MLB to show early games on 18 Sundays. And we do mean early — shortly after 10:30 a.m. or 11 a.m. (St. Louis time) most weeks. Peacock, which is owned by NBCUniversal, costs $9.99 monthly and it is believed would have exclusive rights, too, other than for its debut production that reportedly will be simulcast on NBC. (That means no Bally Sports Midwest for Cards games, just like with Apple TV+.) There's no word on whether a grace period would be offered on the subscription fee.
 
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Derrick Goold
WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — With his Gold Glove goal already in hand, Cardinals center fielder Harrison Bader is closer to running down another career ambition.
The Cardinals and their golden outfielder plan to finalize a two-year extension as soon as Sunday, a source confirmed to the Post-Dispatch. The contract, which guarantees Bader slightly more than $10 million, allows the club to avoid an arbitration hearing. For Bader, it gets him closer to what he’s often discussed — staying with the team that drafted him.
“I want to be a Cardinal, and I want to stay a Cardinal,” Bader said before referencing Yadier Molina and Adam Wainwright. “And I don’t have to look far for a couple of teammates who have been Cardinals for life. I don’t want to play anywhere else. I want to do all I can to have the chance to stay here.”

A deal with Bader leaves Tyler O’Neill as the only Cardinal headed toward an arbitration hearing, though the club and their left fielder have continued to discuss a multi-year extension.
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#111      

Dan Caesar
Alot less ESPN. Tuesdays with TBS. Then throw in a fruit (Apple) and a bird (Peacock) to mix with MLB Network, Fox and FS1.
Those are the key players in the significant ways in which baseball fans will watch games this season — and in some cases, watch fewer games than they did last year.
The wave of popularity in streaming has Major League Baseball cashing in on another revenue source.
Here's the rundown:
• MLB has contracted with Apple TV+ for Friday night doubleheaders, games that will be Apple exclusives — meaning there will be no local telecasts. When the Cardinals play there, the only way to watch will be through Apple TV+. That service costs $4.99 monthly, though the company says the games will be offered without a subscription being needed for at least the first half of the season, for which it has set its schedule. The Cards are to make three appearances — road games against the Reds (April 22) and Pirates (May 20) and a home contest against the Cubs (June 24).

• The Peacock streaming service has been in talks with MLB to show early games on 18 Sundays. And we do mean early — shortly after 10:30 a.m. or 11 a.m. (St. Louis time) most weeks. Peacock, which is owned by NBCUniversal, costs $9.99 monthly and it is believed would have exclusive rights, too, other than for its debut production that reportedly will be simulcast on NBC. (That means no Bally Sports Midwest for Cards games, just like with Apple TV+.) There's no word on whether a grace period would be offered on the subscription fee.
I hate the way the sport organizations dole out games with an eye dropper and act like they are doing us a favor. In this day and age of technology it should be all games all the time no blackouts.
 
#114      
I already have peacock for premier league and other stuff so that won't be a big change for me. I'll have to figure out some "alternative" methods for watching the apple TV+ stuff.

Could be worse though. I think the Yankees are going to have a handful of games on Amazon prime.
 
#115      

pruman91

Paducah, Ky

JUPITER, Fla. — Almost as soon as spring training started, it seems, it is all but over. The Cardinals have exhibition games slated Monday and Tuesday here against Washington and Miami, then fly home to start the season on Thursday at Busch Stadium against the Pittsburgh Pirates.
Lead Post-Dispatch baseball writer Derrick Goold normally poses 10 questions to consider as training begins. This year, the list was cut to nine because of the condensed version of the camp because of to the owners’ lockout of the players. Now we follow up as to whether those questions have been answered:

4. Who’s the match that ignites at leadoff?
“Dylan’s done a nice job (at leadoff) when we’ve allowed him to do that this spring,” Marmol said. “You look at what he’s done against left-handers over the course of his career and it’s pretty good. And he’s proven to be pretty good from the left side, as well. So he’s someone who fill that spot more often than that.”

9. Do they have enough to win it all?
That was the talk coming from camp.
“All” did not mean making the playoffs. It meant, from Marmol on down, talking of being the last team standing. But help will have to come from Flaherty and, maybe Reyes, too.
The Cardinals’ rotation, at present, does not match up with some of the others in the league, notably division rival Milwaukee.
 
#116      

pruman91

Paducah, Ky

JUPITER, Fla. — Through a series of moves on their final day in Florida without a game scheduled, the Cardinals gave a peek at the position players and bench they’ll sport on opening day.
The pitching staff remains up for debate.
“I think we might go down to the wire, to Tuesday,” manager Oliver Marmol said. “There is still a little more we want to see. I think we may take this all the way.”
The Cardinals are talking about starting the season with 15 pitchers on their 28-man roster, leaving five spots on the roster for the designated hitters and bench players.
The team optioned infielder Brendan Donovan to Class AAA Memphis after an impressive camp and planned to officially reassign Cory Spangenberg to the the Triple-A roster. That left 13 positions players on the active roster and, after the eight starters, defined the bench as Albert Pujols, Corey Dickerson, infielder Edmundo Sosa, backup catcher Andrew Knizner, and left-handed hitting outfielder Lars Nootbaar.
 
#117      
Oh wow. Kind of harsh.

ESPN 2022 MLB season preview

15. St. Louis Cardinals

Projected record: 81-81 (30.6% playoff odds)

If everything goes right ...
It's 2011 all over again with the reunion of Albert Pujols, Yadier Molina and Adam Wainwright. When Molina turns 40 in July, all three will be 40 or older. It somehow works -- mostly thanks to Paul Goldschmidt, Nolan Arenado and Tyler O'Neill topping last year's 96 combined home runs and each winning a Gold Glove again. The bullpen dominates and Dylan Carlson hits .300 in a breakout sophomore season, but the big key is Wainwright, Miles Mikolas and Steven Matz each make 30 starts to stabilize the rotation. The Brewers' offense falters and the Cardinals win the division ... and anything can happen in October. -- Schoenfield

Weakness that could stop them: There are questions about the rotation, especially in terms of depth, but let's step beyond roster concerns and just pose this question: What if it was a mistake to fire Mike Shildt? This isn't a knock against Oliver Marmol, who for all we know will prove to be Billy Southworth, Whitey Herzog and Tony La Russa all rolled into one. But if there is a certain amount of "if it ain't broke don't fix it" that ought to be baked into the decision-making of teams, then you have to wonder, because the Cardinals won with Shildt and arguably overachieved in doing so. -- Doolittle

Most likely 2022 award winner: Arenado won his ninth consecutive Gold Glove, made his sixth All-Star team and belted 34 home runs in 2021. Yet he left that season wholly disappointed. The reason: A .254 batting average over the past two years, 41 points lower than his career average heading into the COVID-shortened 2020 season. It prompted mechanical tweaks that involved changing the positioning of his hands to make him quicker to the ball. It's always smart to bet on Arenado, who turns 31 this month. If those adjustments help, he should make another run at the NL MVP. -- Gonzalez

One (realistic) bold prediction: The three old guys look their age, the rotation crumbles, the big three hit 76 home runs instead of 96 and the Cardinals finish under .500 for the first time since 2007. -- Schoenfield
 
#121      

IlliniFan85

Colorado Springs, CO
I was wrong on day 1. I thought he would be called on to face left handed pitchers.
Marmol stated its to allow Pujols to get his 22nd opening day start. It ties him for 2nd all time and 1 opening day start behind Pete Rose. After that it should be vs Lefties and occasionally a spot start.
 
#123      

pruman91

Paducah, Ky

JUPITER, Fla. — With two days remaining in camp and his name still on the Cardinals’ roster, right-hander Andre Pallante gave his father out in Orange County, Calif., a warning that a decision on who made the team had to be made soon.
When the son called at 4 a.m. Monday (West Coast time) with news, he was not surprised to find his father, Neil, awake.
“I don’t think he slept at all,” Andre said.
And yet he had a dream.
By telling Neil Pallante’s hard-throwing son that he would start the season in the big-league bullpen, the Cardinals finished their 28-man opening-day roster. Andre Pallante edged lefty Connor Thomas and fellow right-hander Jake Walsh — all rookies — for the 15th and final spot on the Cardinals’ pitching staff. Pallante, 23, was the last of the players told he’ll be flying to St. Louis on Tuesday afternoon in time for dinner.

Manager Oliver Marmol, who said the decision was made after internal debate Sunday night, wanted to strike a competitive theme for camp and the derby for the final spot on the pitching staff offered an example, each prospect making his claim.
The competition to earn a spot is over. The competition to keep it is just beginning.
“No doubt. It will be as real as ever,” Marmol said. “You’ve got to cut two pitchers come May, and we’ll keep our best guys. So it’s a competition to get there. This whole sport, that’s what it is. If you’re good, you stay, and if you’re not, you go. Those guys need to prove they’re going to help us win a championship. If they are, they stay. We’ll make the decision when we need to.”
 
#124      

the national

the Front Range
I was wrong on day 1. I thought he would be called on to face left handed pitchers.
I think he’s going to be part of the pageantry of opening day. Plus, if people know he’s playing, the farewell tour will start on day one. People are very excited to see him in the cards uni again.
 
#125      
I think he’s going to be part of the pageantry of opening day. Plus, if people know he’s playing, the farewell tour will start on day one. People are very excited to see him in the cards uni again.
I think it goes beyond being excited. Many fans are absolutely giddy. It is like a kid opening presents on Christmas day. From an ownership perspective, it has ramped up interest in this team, which means more money coming into ownership.