St. Louis Cardinals 2022

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pruman91
wpr said:
I'm sorry to see Reyes was not kept. I don't disagree with what Mo and the team did. It's been so frustrating to see him struggle and then end up on IL. I have to wonder if Hicks won't be far behind.
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Roster spots for the Cardinals this off season are precious as they have a big laundry lists of moves to make.....

Reyes can still negotiate a contract with the Cardinals and should , based on the Cardinals outlay of contract monies and medical expenses paid by them the last 3-4 years of little production ......But , life doesn't work that way in today's society......sad................jmho
 
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pruman91
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Goold: Oliver Marmol’s ‘hands-on’ offseason, from embracing St. Louis to Cardinals outreach

Cardinals manager and his family wanted to 'plant roots, get involved' with community, while he uses it as home base to visit some players 'face to face.'
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Benjamin Hochman

There have been sightings at a Blues game, around the arena for a SLU men’s basketball game, and a true eagle-eyed birdwatcher might even have glimpsed him inspecting the changing leaves and flora at the Missouri Botanical Garden.
Cardinals manager Oliver Marmol has been spotted around town since the end of the their season because, after his first full season in the role, his family decided to call St. Louis home for the offseason. As they’ve explored the city, rink side to courtside to countryside, and even stopped a few times to smell the roses, they’ve learned when it comes to baseball in St. Louis there is no offseason.
Even picking up dinner comes with an extra slice of commentary.

“Go to the pizza shop and it’s like, ‘We can’t wait for the season to start,’” Marmol said. “Ah, it ended last week. You definitely feel it regardless of where you go. That’s the part that’s cool. Look, losing in the playoffs (stunk). The way we lost (stunk), right? Every part of it. But the responsibility and the accountability of it — this is amazing. We didn’t reach our goal, and everyone is feeling that way.”
At the same table he’s been using for Zoom meetings and conference calls this past month, Marmol spoke about his offseason so far and his plans for the offseason ahead after the Cardinals’ division-title season ended with a swift exit from the playoffs.
Marmol finalized his staff, replacing former Cardinal and current Miami manager Skip Schumaker at bench coach with former Cardinal and newest Cardinals Hall of Fame Matt Holliday. The Cardinals promoted Dusty Blake to pitching coach and Turner Ward to hitting coach, and already Marmol said they have plans to visit and work individually with players in the coming months. Marmol will hit the road too, using St. Louis as his base to fan out for face-to-face meetings with some players.

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nice article
 
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pruman91
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Hochman: Cardinals should sign Trea Turner, trade for Sean Murphy, win ballgames

Have the “infield of dreams” with MVP Paul Goldschmidt at first, Tommy Edman at second, Trea Turner at shortstop and Nolan Arenado at third.
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Benjamin Hochman

Each time I write one of these, I get messages that say — don’t waste your time, they’re not going to spend that much, they never do. And, yes, I get it. Hearing me say the Cardinals should sign Trea Turner might sound as realistic as St. Louis signing 1927 Babe Ruth, 1939 Roy Hobbs or, even crazier, 2023 Aaron Judge.
OK, with that out of the way, the Cardinals should sign Trea Turner.
Enough of being one big bat away from a postseason breakthrough (or, for that matter, earning a first-round bye). Enough of pinning your hopes on a young player having his breakout year. Just buy the bat. Change the calculus. In 2023, go to bat — figuratively and literally — with three MVP candidates. Have the “infield of dreams” with a reigning MVP in Paul Goldschmidt at first, a dynamo in Tommy Edman at second, “an even-better Tommy Edman” in Turner at shortstop and a generational talent in Nolan Arenado at third.

The Cardinals have said they’ll raise payroll. They should also raise their postseason expectations.
In 2023, the Cardinals and their big-spending fans will celebrate the 10-year anniversary of the last Cardinals team to make the World Series.
A decade.
And the Cards didn’t even really come close to the World Series from 2014-2022.
So, how do the Cardinals become a team that contends for the pennant such as the Dodgers (three World Series appearances in the past six years) or the Astros (four World Series appearances in the past six years)? OK, you don’t have the money to be the Dodgers, fine. But why not become the Astros?
 
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the juiceman cometh
pruman91 said:
www.stltoday.com

Hochman: Cardinals should sign Trea Turner, trade for Sean Murphy, win ballgames

Have the “infield of dreams” with MVP Paul Goldschmidt at first, Tommy Edman at second, Trea Turner at shortstop and Nolan Arenado at third.
www.stltoday.com www.stltoday.com


Benjamin Hochman

Each time I write one of these, I get messages that say — don’t waste your time, they’re not going to spend that much, they never do. And, yes, I get it. Hearing me say the Cardinals should sign Trea Turner might sound as realistic as St. Louis signing 1927 Babe Ruth, 1939 Roy Hobbs or, even crazier, 2023 Aaron Judge.
OK, with that out of the way, the Cardinals should sign Trea Turner.
Enough of being one big bat away from a postseason breakthrough (or, for that matter, earning a first-round bye). Enough of pinning your hopes on a young player having his breakout year. Just buy the bat. Change the calculus. In 2023, go to bat — figuratively and literally — with three MVP candidates. Have the “infield of dreams” with a reigning MVP in Paul Goldschmidt at first, a dynamo in Tommy Edman at second, “an even-better Tommy Edman” in Turner at shortstop and a generational talent in Nolan Arenado at third.

The Cardinals have said they’ll raise payroll. They should also raise their postseason expectations.
In 2023, the Cardinals and their big-spending fans will celebrate the 10-year anniversary of the last Cardinals team to make the World Series.
A decade.
And the Cards didn’t even really come close to the World Series from 2014-2022.
So, how do the Cardinals become a team that contends for the pennant such as the Dodgers (three World Series appearances in the past six years) or the Astros (four World Series appearances in the past six years)? OK, you don’t have the money to be the Dodgers, fine. But why not become the Astros?
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Exactly this.
 
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wpr
IlliniFaninHoosierLand said:
With all the chances they've given him, I'm gonna be curious to see what happens with Danny Mac:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1599968646889103363
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That's too bad. I can't see them letting him come back after he has been given so many chances. He may have been arrested 3 times but I find it hard to believe those were the only times he got behind the wheel when he was under the influence. I have no doubt he has tried to remain sober but the pull is too great for him. He really needs help. Some can get the monkey off their back, others can't.
 
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pruman91
the juiceman cometh said:
Well that was quick...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1600551569262452736

Comes out to a $17.5 AAV, so if it's evenly distributed we are probably right around the budget that was being floated a few weeks ago, maybe like $5-10MM under it.
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I imagine this takes the Cardinals out of the SS free agent sweepstakes...................

I like this deal .....better hitter , not as good D , but it's a need and now it's filled ..............

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the juiceman cometh
pruman91 said:
I imagine this takes the Cardinals out of the SS free agent running...................

I like this deal .....better hitter , not as good D , but it's a need and now it's filled ..............

Next...............................
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I don't think we were seriously in it unless that $180MM wasn't accurate. Agreed this is more an area of need and we filled it, and Contreras will help this lineup, which is big.

Think our biggest need now is starting pitcher. Beyond the obvious reliability issues, the only starting pitchers we have signed beyond 2023 are Matz and Hudson (not counting guys who are likely to start the season out in the minors).
 
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pruman91
the juiceman cometh said:
I don't think we were seriously in it unless that $180MM wasn't accurate. Agreed this is more an area of need and we filled it, and Contreras will help this lineup, which is big.

Think our biggest need now is starting pitcher. Beyond the obvious reliability issues, the only starting pitchers we have signed beyond 2023 are Matz and Hudson (not counting guys who are likely to start the season out in the minors).
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So counting the Contreras deal , what is the Cards payroll at now ??

Also , I bet waino's $ 17.5 million coming off after next year helped get this 5 yr contract done........I wonder what the asking price was for Sean Murphy was from the Cardinals for it to be too much ??

Low hanging fruit Alert.............Cardinals are in the market ....................lol
 
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the juiceman cometh
pruman91 said:
So counting the Contreras deal , what is the Cards payroll at now ??

Also , I bet waino's $ 17.5 million coming off after next year helped get this 5 yr contract done........I wonder what the asking price was for Sean Murphy was from the Cardinals for it to be too much ??

Low hanging fruit Alert.............Cardinals are in the market ....................lol
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Payroll before this was approx $165MM factoring in estimated arb salaries. Target budget was $180-185MM. Per Goold. Contreras puts us right in the middle of that range.
 
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