St Louis Cardinals 2023

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Remember, you have to trade something to get something. Oniel, Dejong, Gallegos, won't get anything. Flaherty
and Montgomery are rent-a-players due to free agency, so not worth a lot. Teams will ask for young controllable
big league talent or minor league developmental talent, i.e. Donovan, Edman, Walker, Winn, Carlson, Nootbaar.
Walker and Winn are not going anywhere. Maybe some AAA outfielders since we just drafted a bunch and have
5 on the roster, mostly playing out of position. This is why Goldy and Arenado are even being discussed. We are
now the Colorado Rockies, dumping our big money players!
 
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Moz will not make fundamental changes to this roster. Since he drafted a college third baseman to
play shortstop, he has consistently made moves to protect himself and dodge any criticism. Thats why
he moved upstairs. Now Girsch can take the bullet for him. How many presidents take all the airtime
in lieu of a GM? Minor trades will be made and if anybody takes the fall it will be Girsch.
 
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champaignchris

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willillini said:
Moz will not make fundamental changes to this roster. Since he drafted a college third baseman to
play shortstop, he has consistently made moves to protect himself and dodge any criticism. Thats why
he moved upstairs. Now Girsch can take the bullet for him. How many presidents take all the airtime
in lieu of a GM? Minor trades will be made and if anybody takes the fall it will be Girsch.
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It’s gotten pretty common in baseball for the guy who makes the personnel decisions to be called President or Vice-President instead of GM (for example Friedman with the Dodgers, Hoyer with the Cubs) or to be GM and have an additional title as Pres or VP (for example Cashman with the Yankees, Arnold with the Brewers).

It’s a way to make poaching more expensive since Baseball gives more compensation for “lateral” management moves than for “promotions.” Works the same way where you might have to give up a prospect if you hire away someone’s manager to be your manager, but not if you hire away someone’s bench coach to be your manager.
 
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Se Il Illini

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viking6888 said:

1-on-1 with Cardinals President John Mozeliak: "We're Going to Trade People"​

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I have several thoughts about this interview. I will only focus on one aspect. Mozeliak mentions that Dakota Hudson was penciled in as one of the starters. I assume this was in the off season. It was not too long ago that Flaherty and Reyes were supposed going to be two of the starters the following season. Neither pitched at all the following season.
 
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willillini

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champaignchris said:
It’s gotten pretty common in baseball for the guy who makes the personnel decisions to be called President or Vice-President instead of GM (for example Friedman with the Dodgers, Hoyer with the Cubs) or to be GM and have an additional title as Pres or VP (for example Cashman with the Yankees, Arnold with the Brewers).

It’s a way to make poaching more expensive since Baseball gives more compensation for “lateral” management moves than for “promotions.” Works the same way where you might have to give up a prospect if you hire away someone’s manager to be your manager, but not if you hire away someone’s bench coach to be your manager.
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i wish poaching could happen in the Cardinal front office. In this case, its not gonna happen when your bad at your job. Lohse on the other hand might move on
while he still can..
 
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pruman91

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Cardinals to play a doubleheader Saturday after rain suspends Friday's series opener

Rain postponed the Cardinals series opener against the Washington Nationals at Busch Stadium in the third inning on Friday night.
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As second half starts up, Nolan Gorman looks to leave struggles in the past: Cardinals Extra

Following his hot start to 2023, Nolan Gorman fell into a slump that included a .157 average and a 42.0% strikeout rate in the final 30 games of the first
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Scott Rolen credits success with Cardinals for his place among baseball's legends

Former Cardinals third baseman Scott Rolen talks with reporters about his upcoming induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame.
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'67 Cards were 'really smart' and, as Gibson proved, really tough

Ace remembers the Cardinals as a very intelligent team.
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pruman91

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THATS A WINNER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Burleson with 3 hits and a home run, and a very good catch at the wall....
Arenado with a solo blast....
Walker with a great diving catch in right field.............
17 (I think ) hits for the cardinals ......a season high.......
Matz was tough first time throught the lineup .......maybe relief is his spot for 2024 season....
Hudson looked good , best stat for him was NO walks
 
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pruman91

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Alec Burleson's pivotal catch overshadows his 3-hit game and a home run in a Cardinals win

Cardinals outfielder Alec Burleson and pitcher Dakota Hudson played key parts in Saturday night's win over the Nationals.
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Cardinals unleash a 17-hit barrage in a 9-6 win over the Nationals to split doubleheader

The Cardinals collected 17 hits on their way to a 9-6 win over the Nationals in the second game of Saturday's doubleheader.
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Defensive miscues pave the way to an extra-inning loss for the Cardinals in opener with Nationals

The Cardinals lost the opening game of the doubleheader with the Nationals 7-5 after they allowed three unearned runs on Saturday.
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JK13

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willillini said:
Remember, you have to trade something to get something. Oniel, Dejong, Gallegos, won't get anything. Flaherty
and Montgomery are rent-a-players due to free agency, so not worth a lot. Teams will ask for young controllable
big league talent or minor league developmental talent, i.e. Donovan, Edman, Walker, Winn, Carlson, Nootbaar.
Walker and Winn are not going anywhere. Maybe some AAA outfielders since we just drafted a bunch and have
5 on the roster, mostly playing out of position. This is why Goldy and Arenado are even being discussed. We are
now the Colorado Rockies, dumping our big money players!
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I'd be willing to part with anyone except these five, maybe Donovan as well.
 
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pruman91

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THATS A WINNER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

win # 40 for the Cardinals (ugh )

Flaherty with another quality start and the win
Gorman with 3 hits and another bomb
Goldie with a 430 + HR to straight away center field


Marlins coming in to Busch III for a 3 game series......Then we go to Wrigley........

It's nice to have the games back on and win the first series after the All Star break....................
 
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JK13

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pruman91 said:
THATS A WINNER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

win # 40 for the Cardinals (ugh )

Flaherty with another quality start and the win
Gorman with 3 hits and another bomb
Goldie with a 430 + HR to straight away center field


Marlins coming in to Busch III for a 3 game series......Then we go to Wrigley........

It's nice to have the games back on and win the first series after the All Star break....................
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I almost forgot what winning 2 series in a row felt like. Lol
 
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pruman91

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Hochman: The Cardinals could sure use more players with a Brendan Donovan mindset

"He's just one of those guys that when you talk about Cardinal guys, he epitomizes that," Jack Flaherty said of Brendan Donovan. "He just does everything the right way."
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Cardinals’ Jack Flaherty wins, attempts to keep tunnel vision as MLB trade deadline approaches

Cardinals starter Jack Flaherty turned in a strong start in a series-clinching win over the Washington Nationals at Busch Stadium.
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Cardinals prospect Masyn Winn hits, Tink Hence earns first Class AA win: Minor League Report

Masyn Winn combined to go five-for-nine with a double, a triple, and three RBIs in two games for Class AAA Memphis.
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Tipsheet: Trade deadline buyers are keeping close tabs on Cardinals

Many contenders are shopping for near-term pitching. The Cardinals are ready to trade pitchers with expiring contracts for pitchers will longer-term values. So the front office will be busy ahead
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Se Il Illini

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I caught some comments about the Cardinals on the Major League Baseball network last Friday. The Cardinal starting pitching ranks 25th with a 4.78 ERA . The bullpen is ranked 24th with a 4.54 ERA. The rankings are correct, but the ERA's could be slightly off. They made the further point that the defense has not been up to past Cardinal standards.
 
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BillyBob1

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What was it about Tepera’s 7.25 ERA that makes you want to jump all over that? I guess it is because he could raise it in his first outing with the Cardinals.
 
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pruman91

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BillyBob1 said:
What was it about Tepera’s 7.25 ERA that makes you want to jump all over that? I guess it is because he could raise it in his first outing with the Cardinals.
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IMHO , he was brought in to replace Chris Stratton , who is a pending free agent.......Stratton's name has been mentioned in some of the trade rumor articles I have seen the last few days................
 
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pruman91

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THATS A WINNER !!!!!!!

Cards win 6-4 over the Marlins.................

Arenado with 4 RBI's
Carlson had a very good game ...............
Mikolas with 6 good innings..........quality start..........
9th inning got interesting , but the DP was great , and Gorman made a good play for the third out...........
 
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