St Louis Cardinals 2025

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#826      
logjam
wpr said:
I don't know anything about Mason Molina or Skyler Hales but these are the players StL got in return for Phil Maton.
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Just checked and Mason isn't related to Jadi...
 
#827      
Se Il Illini
Dee_4_Three_83 said:
I'll give it to the front office. At least they have finally picked a lane. They realized they couldn't get the big names in the game anymore because they didn't draft well and didn't have stockpiles of talented pitchers, hitters, and fielders to use or trade as needed. Here's to the rebuild! I think it will be a couple years, but it's going to be really fun to see the young guys (Herrera, Winn, Wetherholt, and more) continue to develop. It was admirable the way this team played this year and I am going to choose to remember the team that reached nearly 10 games over .500 than the broken down thin team we saw the last couple weeks, and naturally even thinner now.
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The ultimate goal is to be serious World Series contenders. When ownership decided not to spend money in the off season to improve a team that made great strides in 2024, the handwriting was on the wall. Reset was rebuild. It could be years before this team is again relevant for a World Series championship discussion. This is a mediocre roster which has played pretty well so far. And the bad thing for the owners is that there are a lot of fans out there, who think that the retirement of Mozeliak and potential firing of Marmol will right the ship and the Cardinals will be contenders like LA, the Yankees, Philly and the others. Ownership created this situation, maybe they have the right plan to fix it.
 
#828      
the juiceman cometh
Se Il Illini said:
The ultimate goal is to be serious World Series contenders. When ownership decided not to spend money in the off season to improve a team that made great strides in 2024, the handwriting was on the wall. Reset was rebuild. It could be years before this team is again relevant for a World Series championship discussion. This is a mediocre roster which has played pretty well so far. And the bad thing for the owners is that there are a lot of fans out there, who think that the retirement of Mozeliak and potential firing of Marmol will right the ship and the Cardinals will be contenders like LA, the Yankees, Philly and the others. Ownership created this situation, maybe they have the right plan to fix it.
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Yeah, I am also not that bullish that this turns around just because Mo is gone. I mean, Mo did fine with the budget constraints he had. Wheels came off at the end but that's kind of the inevitable end result of constantly mortgaging your future so you can make the playoffs every year without blowing up the budget - which was exactly the edict he got from ownership. If ownership is going to treat things differently under Bloom, then maybe things will be different. If not, then I think it's either going to be more of the same. Perhaps Bloom was hired because ownership wants to shift to more of the standard mid-market model where teams have long (sometimes painful) periods where they stockpile talent, then compete for a while when enough of that talent matures at the same time, then sell off that talent before it becomes too expensive, rinse and repeat.
 
#829      
wpr
One of the things I found interesting was the front office was willing to trade away pitching but not the core offensive players. Particularly the lefty handed hitters.
 
#830      
the juiceman cometh
wpr said:
One of the things I found interesting was the front office was willing to trade away pitching but not the core offensive players. Particularly the lefty handed hitters.
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I think a big part of this is that there were no offensive players whose contracts are expiring, and except for Arenado (who they would have loved to trade) none of them are on bad contracts.
 
#831      
wpr
the juiceman cometh said:
I think a big part of this is that there were no offensive players whose contracts are expiring, and except for Arenado (who they would have loved to trade) none of them are on bad contracts.
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I know they have flexibility on the young players contracts but if they were offered Konnor Griffin for Lars Nootbaar even up, they would have taken the deal. Point is, the Cards were not given enough in exchange for them. I'm sure they set a very high bar for trade talks.
 
#833      
Ryllini
I think we will know more once the CBA expires in 26 and if there is a lockout. I can't imagine any spending before then. Honestly, probably wouldn't be a terrible idea to get what we can for a guy like Donny. I think he will be 30 soon or already is.
 
#834      
wpr
Here is a nice summary of the new prospects by MLB.
www.mlb.com

Cards restock farm system with 5 prospects in Deadline deals

SAN DIEGO -- Surprise postseason contenders until a July swoon in a season that was supposed to be about development and opportunity, the Cardinals launched themselves fully into rebuilding mode with a series of trades before Thursday’s Trade Deadline. With deals involving two-time All-Star...
www.mlb.com www.mlb.com
 
#835      
pruman91
Cardinals now with a 23 inning scoreless streak................................ugh.................Libby looking good again tonight..............

Ivan Herrera now the longest tenured Redbird on the MLB roster...................wowsa...........
 
#836      
BillyBob1
That has to be one of the dumbest defensive plays of the year. Little League material.
 
#837      
pruman91
4-1 SD..........Cardinals with 1 hit going into bottom of 6th.......Contreras smashed tater had to feel good after the theatrics last week in STL..........
 
#838      
pruman91
welcome to sub .500 baseball boys and girls..........looking like a 4th place Participation Certificate award for the " runway " Redbirds this year..............

now it's 1 run in 28 innings streak.............................
 
#839      
pruman91
Gorman needs to run with this opportunity for extended play with Arenado on the IL and fumbles an easy grounder for an error after he was caught looking for a K earlier.........his progression as an MLB player is lacking any suitable improvement to consider him to be an everyday player........sad to say..............JMHO.....
 
#840      
Ryllini
pruman91 said:
Gorman needs to run with this opportunity for extended play with Arenado on the IL and fumbles an easy grounder for an error after he was caught looking for a K earlier.........his progression as an MLB player is lacking any suitable improvement to consider him to be an everyday player........sad to say..............JMHO.....
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It’s a rough watch right now. Bummed.
 
#841      
pruman91
well , Gorman contributed with a soft single that continued the inning to the famous Pedro " Babe Ruth " Pages who tied the game with a monstrous 3 run smashed tater..........it's a lot more fun when you actually score some runs..............it really really is..............
 
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#842      
pruman91
yay.....the Padres didn't score in the 4th.....first inning tonight held scoreless......
 
#843      
pruman91
Winn with a two out 2 run double to get the lead for the Cardinals at 6-4 going into bottom of the 5th,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I like it a lot..
 
#844      
BillyBob1
pruman91 said:
Winn with a two out 2 run double to get the lead for the Cardinals at 6-4 going into bottom of the 5th,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I like it a lot..
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Burlie fortunate the catcher dropped the ball. He was out by several feet if they catch it.

Nice double play.
 
#845      
pruman91
THAT'S A WINNER !!!!!!!!!!!

Cardinals offense finally awakens from hibernation with a comeback 8-5 victory over the Padres , evening the series at 1-1 and getting back to .500 for the season..................

The Cardinals roar back from a 4-0 score with Pages 3 run dinger finally tying the score at 4-4 with Winn's 2 run double finally giving the Redbirds the lead........

Herrera.....3-4 with an rbi..........
winn,,,2-4 with 2 rbi's.......
Pages..1-4 with 3 rbi's.....

Cardinals pitching inducing 18 ground ball outs.......
McGreevy's start's this season has generated a Cardinals 9-2 record this year......
Romero with the save...................

let's get the win and a series win tomorrow in the Sunday matinee..................LET'S GO CARDINALS..................
 
#847      
pruman91
Gorman's dismal defensive performance at 3rd base the last 3 days shows he is NOT the answer long term as he botched numerous groundballs either with a leaky glove or off target throws.........the pop up in foul territory where he shied away from contact with the stands really stood out to me.........

I would think he will be floated around this off season to clear space for younger players........JMHO...........
 
#848      
pruman91
I had a doctor's appt @ 9 am last Friday and I contracted some thing there as I am down with a nasty cough , severe sore throat , achy all over and a persistent headache..........going to self medicate and doubtful I will be up for the Dodgers game tonight..........

Got a 101.6 fever and I feel like crap................I really really do..................
 
#849      
viking6888
pruman91 said:
I had a doctor's appt @ 9 am last Friday and I contracted some thing there as I am down with a nasty cough , severe sore throat , achy all over and a persistent headache..........going to self medicate and doubtful I will be up for the Dodgers game tonight..........

Got a 101.6 fever and I feel like crap................I really really do..................
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Drink lots of fluids and get some electrolytes..hang in there
 
#850      
whatahack
pruman91 said:
I had a doctor's appt @ 9 am last Friday and I contracted some thing there as I am down with a nasty cough , severe sore throat , achy all over and a persistent headache..........going to self medicate and doubtful I will be up for the Dodgers game tonight..........

Got a 101.6 fever and I feel like crap................I really really do..................
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Hang in there brother...maybe a NL can help
 
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